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Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:43 pm
Posted by 4suredog
Starkville, Ms.
Member since Aug 2011
27 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:43 pm
So would like to know what yall think. Lets say a 3 star from florida/texas/ cali from a 6-7 A school vs a 4 star from Alabama/ mississippi/ louisiana 3A school. Whats your thoughts?

I always tend to think you get a more developed player from the big states because the coaching, facilities, and certainly talent are so much better and deeper. OR, are the recriting scouts really that good and the stars are pretty accurate?

I don't mean this to be in any way about any specific player, just a topic to discuss. Your thoughts?
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

Your thoughts?


Is white chocolate actually chocolate?
Posted by GTHTSUN
Team Jacktown
Member since Sep 2012
1646 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:46 pm to
Sometimes you don't want a more developed player. Coaches want a kid that has talent and can be coached. Kids that are more developed are sometimes harder to coach because they think they know it all.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40045 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Is white chocolate actually chocolate?
No.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24937 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:50 pm to
No...and white chocolate is bad.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22370 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:56 pm to
Not necessarily... the kid coming from the bigger program with better training/facilities may be more ready to contribute right away, but the guy who's getting by on raw athleticism and hasn't been getting the proper weight training/coaching could have WAY MORE upside.

CJ Mosley at Alabama is a good example... Theodore is terrible, but he's been an outstanding player, even though he wasn't as highly ranked in HS as some of their other LB signees.
Posted by Tds & Beer
TOT DAT MOFAN~DRIP DRIP~Bunty Pls
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/14/13 at 2:03 pm to
I think that every situation is different and has to be evaluated by our staff. Probably best to have a bit of a mix.
This post was edited on 1/14/13 at 2:04 pm
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 2:19 pm to
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Not necessarily... the kid coming from the bigger program with better training/facilities may be more ready to contribute right away, but the guy who's getting by on raw athleticism and hasn't been getting the proper weight training/coaching could have WAY MORE upside.

CJ Mosley at Alabama is a good example... Theodore is terrible, but he's been an outstanding player, even though he wasn't as highly ranked in HS as some of their other LB signees.


Exactly.

The 3* in other states is almost like recruiting a JUCO in MS from a development standpoint. If you need immediate help somewhere, that's a good way to look. However, if it's not a position of immediate need, the MS kid is often the better option longterm with the higher ceiling.

That's the biggest reason that we recruit MS so hard -- and then redshirt practically everyone that isn't a 3-yr NFL type talent. The idea is that by year 4 or year 5, you cancel the talent gap with other teams by having more mature/developed players.

Had Croom not left the roster in such a precariously depleted situation, we would have redshirted Bumphis, Boyd, Banks, Cam Law, Smith, etc...Cox would still be gone, but all the rest of those guys would probably be returning NEXT year. Think about how much better our roster situation would be right now had we been able to do that. That's the problem -- our 2009 class is split between redshirts and not -- while basically the whole 2010 class was redshirted. That leaves us with a very "young" roster, where we are graduating only about 17 this year and about 14 next year...It will be 2014 before the roster is "fully developed" on the level that we want it to be...



This post was edited on 1/14/13 at 2:21 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72217 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 3:14 pm to
I'm taking the in-state kid if the staff rates them equally by their standards.
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