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re: Best Recruiting Job This Year - Malzahn or Freeze

Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:38 am to
Posted by LsuTool
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:38 am to
Miles
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:39 am to
quote:

they lost the two biggest recruits they had in Foster and Liner.
It certainly hurt, but not surprising considering we fired the guys that they committed to. However, keeping Lawson (who was a bigger recruit than those two) and getting Adams as a replacement for Dee was impressive. Not to mention adding Daniel.

I'm not saying our class was better than everyone else's, just that the circumstances Malzahn had to overcome to sign a great class is impressive.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:39 am to
Gotta give the edge to Freeze.

Gustav and staff did a remarkable job this year, but AU has had plenty of top 15 classes in recent years, no matter who was doing the recruiting.

The blACK BeARs have been ranked in the 30s or lower more often than in the top 20. To pull a top 10 class the year after ranking #40 is nothing short of astonishing.

Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:39 am to
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Dark horse: Mark Stoops

We were in the 60-70 range before he showed up.


This. He did a great job
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:39 am to
Malzahn also flipped two of Freeze's commitments -- Barber and Daniel. Head-to-head, GM seemed to get the better of the deal... time will tell who the better class is, though.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:39 am to
Freeze, but I am very happy with what Auburn did...

Missed on only one that I expected us to get..(MacKenzie)
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:40 am to
I honestly believe that A&M is going to have to start playing the "game" and just stop worrying about the NCAA. We are recruiting much better, but not to the level these teams are.

NCAA is spineless anyway. Cam was definitely bought, Oregon is shelling out the bucks, and Miami is probably going to get off on a technicality. I'm sure OM will get off as well when the impending investigation occurs.

As for the question, Freeze and his boosters did better than Malzahn and his boosters.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:40 am to
I would say Butch Jones or Mark Richt personally.
Posted by ThaKaptin
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:40 am to
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I'm sure OM will get off as well when the impending investigation occurs.

As for the question, Freeze and his boosters did better than Malzahn and his boosters.


So much fail here
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:41 am to
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1a. Hugh Freeze
1b.Gus Malzahn
14.Dan Mullenses


FIFY.
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:41 am to
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:41 am to
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It's not quite the same though when you are reloading a BB gun.


Posted by ThaKaptin
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:42 am to
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:43 am to
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54183 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:48 am to
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Freeze and it's not even close.
It is certainly close.

Circumstances to overcome:

Malzahn
0-8 SEC season
entire staff fired
8 weeks to get new staff
8 weeks to find a way to get recruits
In state rival has Saban, back to back, and 3 of 4
Out of state rival has SEC East Championship and vastly superior in state talent
alleged racist center

Freeze
He coaches Ole Miss


I mean, I can agree that Freeze had the bigger obstacle, but it is close, right?
This post was edited on 2/6/13 at 11:49 am
Posted by John Redcorn
Arlen
Member since Nov 2012
202 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:48 am to
I think these two's high school coaching experience helps them. They are more familiar with what makes a high school player tick than oracles who didn't coach at that level.
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:55 am to
I agree with this. Now they gotta develop the talent.
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:55 am to
I judge classes by what happens over the next year.

Let's face it, some players don't ever make it to campus. Some do and last a year. Some just seem to disappear.

On just the LOIs, It would be Freeze.

On the over all best job it's Gus.

Shorter time fram, and no luxury of having the top recruit in the nation's brother enrolled.


Hat's off to both.
Posted by McRebel42
North Mississippi Hollywood
Member since Oct 2012
11606 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:58 am to
Malzhan hired one of the best recruiting staffs in the country ... doesn't really surprise me one bit.


AU
This post was edited on 2/6/13 at 11:59 am
Posted by elvisleft
Member since Sep 2012
518 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 12:00 pm to
I guess Freeze because Ole Miss is a tougher sell. It sounds like kids love playing for him, so he may be doing this for awhile.

I don't fault Malzahn for losing Liner and Foster. I'm more impressed by who he kept. And think of it this way: If Liner had stayed solid, Auburn probably wouldn't have gotten to Adams and Daniel. Not sure Auburn lost out there.

In a couple of hours we'll know if Auburn replaced Foster with Cunningham. Cunningham's nowhere near the force Foster is, and he's a very different player, but it does look like Auburn found solid ways to help at LB despite losing Foster.
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