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re: '18 QB Zadock Dinkelmann commits to LSU
Posted on 2/23/14 at 2:19 am to Yat27
Posted on 2/23/14 at 2:19 am to Yat27
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So I'm assuming you weren't happy when Alabama offered 14 year old Dylan Moses?
Offers get thrown around all of the time. Was it committable at that time? Who knows?
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How about when your offensive coordinator accepted the commitment of a 13 year old?
Didn't know I was supposed to care about what he did at his previous stops.
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inconsistent
I think it's dumb to have 13 year olds commit. What about you? Where do you draw the line?
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 2:34 am to chattabama
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Offers get thrown around all of the time. Was it committable at that time? Who knows?
I believe it was... The kid's dad posts here, and I'm pretty sure he thinks Alabama would have taken Dylan's commitment. It was reported by multiple agencies... They offered him a scholarship, bro.
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Didn't know I was supposed to care about what he did at his previous stops.
Perhaps you shouldn't, but both links prove pretty clearly that your staff isn't above this sort of thing.
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I think it's dumb to have 13 year olds commit. What about you? Where do you draw the line?
I have absolutely no problem with it. The school is taking a risk by offering, because a kid may not develop like they expect. Then, they would have to choose whether to honor the commitment or look like a bunch of assholes. The kid doesn't really risk anything, because as I'm sure you know, these commitments are non-binding.
Essentially, I think the news blows these stories out of proportion. These kids show up at camps looking to get noticed. Sometimes, a phenomenal talent will show up and get offered at a very young age. It's not like Bama, LSU and USC expend a lot of time and resources scouting middle school games.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 3:04 am to Yat27
I just think that committing to a school opens up a whole can of worms. You go from being an anonymous freshman to all eyes on you. Can he handle that kind of pressure as a middle schooler? He will have to balance media demands at a young age. The whole fans tweeting at a recruit is exponentially creepier when the recruit is in middle school. And what if he decommits in a year or two? As a freshman/sophomore he will have to deal with the crazed fans (we all have them unfortunately).
I'd say qb is more risky than an ATH like Moses who can be put at a variety of positions. You typically only take one qb a year, two at most. Are you sure that he is the best prospect for your team in 2018? What if his development slows and LSU likes ten guys better? You look like a schmuck if you pull his offer after him being committed for three years.
It also makes the term "commitment" more foolish than it already is. You really think that he weighed all of his options carefully, researched the academic side, and decided that LSU is the right choice? Or did he just jump on his first offer?
I think it is ridiculous to offer eighth graders and it is shameful for parents to allow their kid to commit this early. 8th graders simply don't have the ability to make the best long-term decisions for themselves. A majority of them haven't really thought about their life plan, or what else they want to pursue if football doesn't work out.
/rant over
I'd say qb is more risky than an ATH like Moses who can be put at a variety of positions. You typically only take one qb a year, two at most. Are you sure that he is the best prospect for your team in 2018? What if his development slows and LSU likes ten guys better? You look like a schmuck if you pull his offer after him being committed for three years.
It also makes the term "commitment" more foolish than it already is. You really think that he weighed all of his options carefully, researched the academic side, and decided that LSU is the right choice? Or did he just jump on his first offer?
I think it is ridiculous to offer eighth graders and it is shameful for parents to allow their kid to commit this early. 8th graders simply don't have the ability to make the best long-term decisions for themselves. A majority of them haven't really thought about their life plan, or what else they want to pursue if football doesn't work out.
/rant over
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:53 am to 2close2Gainesville
Zadock Dinkelmann, lol. What a dumbass name.
Are you kidding me? If he has a younger brother Barkevious Dinklemann, those two would be unstoppable.
Are you kidding me? If he has a younger brother Barkevious Dinklemann, those two would be unstoppable.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 8:02 am to chattabama
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I think it is ridiculous to offer eighth graders and it is shameful for parents to allow their kid to commit this early. 8th graders simply don't have the ability to make the best long-term decisions for themselves. A majority of them haven't really thought about their life plan, or what else they want to pursue if football doesn't work out.
This kid's whole family on both sides played college football. His grandpa is his hs coach. I'm quite sure his life plan through college has been thought out by he and his family for some time.
But yeah it was shameful of Nick and Lane to try this exact same thing.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 8:09 am to Maximus
Im sure it would have been an excellent long term decision had he chosen Bama. 
Posted on 2/23/14 at 9:32 am to chattabama
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I think it's dumb to have 13 year olds commit. What about you? Where do you draw the line?
It's a risk, but I like that LSU is ahead of the times. We'll find out in a few years with Dylan. If Dylan and this kid pan out, other programs will follow. By then, however, LSU could be set for several more championship runs.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:03 am to Maximus
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This kid's whole family on both sides played college football. His grandpa is his hs coach. I'm quite sure his life plan through college has been thought out by he and his family for some time.
Again though what about life outside of football? How many eighth graders do you know that have a good long term plan for themselves? What if he discovers that he is passionate about a degree that LSU doesn't offer?
For the record I think it's retarded that we offered Dylan Moses. I'd still think it's retarded if he committed to Bama last year. His parents should have made him wait it out. Nothing good comes from being committed this early.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:07 am to chattabama
yet you are all aboard the train of someone who took a 10 year old's commitment
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:11 am to Maximus
I didn't know I had to approve of everything that Lane Kiffin did at his previous stops. I approve of him as the OC making calls. That's it.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:16 am to chattabama
Do you approve of Saban offering 8th graders?
The kids life won't change because he committed to LSU
He lives in a football family. He's going to get pushed just as hard, and he's probably going to enjoy it just as hard
The kids life won't change because he committed to LSU
He lives in a football family. He's going to get pushed just as hard, and he's probably going to enjoy it just as hard
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 10:18 am
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:25 am to VermilionTiger
The problem is the attention with the media and twitter etc. that wasn't there before. His actions will be scrutinized more.
Another problem is teaching your son to be a man of his word and to not make promises he can't keep. For all we know, Les Miles and staff could be gone by then and he may not like the new staff. So many things could happen that he has no control over. He can decommit whenever, but is that teaching him the meaning of the word commitment?
Read my previous post. I said offering eighth graders is stupid. Accepting their commitment is retarded.
Another problem is teaching your son to be a man of his word and to not make promises he can't keep. For all we know, Les Miles and staff could be gone by then and he may not like the new staff. So many things could happen that he has no control over. He can decommit whenever, but is that teaching him the meaning of the word commitment?
Read my previous post. I said offering eighth graders is stupid. Accepting their commitment is retarded.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:28 am to chattabama
Any relation to Dusty?
When Jamie smiles it takes me miles
When Jamie smiles it takes me miles
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:31 am to chattabama
take it up with Saban
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:33 am to Maximus
Is this real? It's not a sportspickle article or some bullshite like that?
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:41 am to CtotheVrzrbck
Yeah it's real. You will find a lot of apologists in this thread too. Lolsu
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:49 am to chattabama
Oh so you're in this thread to flame, not make arguments
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:03 am to VermilionTiger
I have made arguments. I just find the whole thing comical. I mean, did Cam turn on film against him playing a bunch of middle schoolers? Did he see any sixth graders he was interested in offering? What did he do after he committed? Watch Disney channel?
You have to admit if this were any other team except for LSU you would be laughing as well.
You have to admit if this were any other team except for LSU you would be laughing as well.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:07 am to chattabama
No, because there's absolutely no negative that can happen in this situation other than him decommitting.
In 2 years if he's a 5* across the board, and Cam didn't offer him because he was afraid what Alabama fans thought, then THAT would be comical.
He's already got mechanics that 4* QBs in this cycle don't have. He's already got the physical attributes, and he obviously has the genetics.
Once again, the only thing comical would be if Cam held off on offering him, and in 2 years he's a unanimous 5* recruit.
In 2 years if he's a 5* across the board, and Cam didn't offer him because he was afraid what Alabama fans thought, then THAT would be comical.
He's already got mechanics that 4* QBs in this cycle don't have. He's already got the physical attributes, and he obviously has the genetics.
Once again, the only thing comical would be if Cam held off on offering him, and in 2 years he's a unanimous 5* recruit.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:24 am to chattabama
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What did he do after he committed? Watch Disney channel?
probably go work on his mechanics with his hs coach/grandpa who put two sons in the NFL at QB
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