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re: Would you rather your team have extreme success in Baseball or Basketball?
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:38 am to GameCocky88
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:38 am to GameCocky88
People care when their team is good or they believe their team is good.
USC fans didn't care enough about basketball to make threads about it until this year. Basically, the same thing.
USC fans didn't care enough about basketball to make threads about it until this year. Basically, the same thing.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:39 am to lsufball19
No. They need to adopt a system like hockey. You can get drafted by a team, but that team still has your rights even if you stay in college. You can also leave whenever you want.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:41 am to pvilleguru
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You can get drafted by a team, but that team still has your rights even if you stay in college. You can also leave whenever you want.
how would that help the college product? you think players are going to stay in college to play if a team owns their rights regardless?
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:41 am to everest
If you travel to see your team play then baseball is greater than basketball. If you have no interest in traveling to see your team, then you think basketball is greater than baseball.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:43 am to roadGator
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People care when their team is good or they believe their team is good.
USC fans didn't care enough about basketball to make threads about it until this year. Basically, the same thing.
So your team has to be good for you to care.... you have to care to make a thread.... ipso facto your team has to be good to make a thread? yeah that is probably the most common sense thing ever posted on tRant.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:44 am to pvilleguru
Stop trying to make college hockey a thing. Without the fights, hockey is basically frozen soccer.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:45 am to GameCocky88
You tell me. Do USC fans care about basketball now more or previous years?
Based on this site, are there more USC fans starting threads about USC basketball this year than previous years?
Based on this site, are there more USC fans starting threads about USC basketball this year than previous years?
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:45 am to lsufball19
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you think players are going to stay in college to play if a team owns their rights regardless?
They do it all the time. A lot of the time, it's play college, or the ECHL. Just look at the recent NHL draft and see how many of the players are staying in college at least one more year. It gives the players more options, and I think that's more important than the product.
Justin Abdelkader is on one of the top lines for Detroit. He was drafted in 2005, and played college until 2008. Dylan Larkin was drafted in 2014. He played the 2014-15 season in college before turning pro this year. Jimmy Howard was drafted in 2003 but didn't leave college until 2005. I'm just looking at players for ONE NHL team and these are just the first three names to pop in my head. They all played in college after they were drafted.
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:49 am to roadGator
I was agreeing with you? People are more likely to start a thread, whether it's to celebrate their own team or troll someone else's, if their team has had success. And that actually back's up my original point which was if those claiming college baseball is irrelevant are fans of a team that makes it to Omaha, they are much more likely to post about their teams success regardless of previous disinterest in the sport.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:49 am to pvilleguru
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They do it all the time. A lot of the time, it's play college, or the ECHL. Just look at the recent NHL draft and see how many of the players are staying in college at least one more year. It gives the players more options, and I think that's more important than the product.
it may be better for the players themselves, but it's not better for the product of the college game, which is what we were talking about in the first place. having a system in place where the best players leave for the professional level when they're 18 and 19 years old is a detriment to the development of the sport. and let's be honest, a kid playing college hockey, 99% of the time, is coming from a far better background than most kids playing college basketball. so you're gonna try to convince a kid who grew up in poverty to keep playing for free to develop his game? not going to happen.
hockey is also more comparable to football in the sense that it's a contact sport and most people aren't developed physically enough to play at the highest level at an early age like they can get by doing in basketball.
I'm not even sure what you're trying tom do ITT. You're trashing a niche sport like college baseball and defending an even more niche sport like college hockey. Like another poster said, stop trying to make hockey happen
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 9:52 am
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:51 am to everest
Basketball.
Who cares about Baseball?
Who cares about Baseball?
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:58 am to lsufball19
It would help all of these kids that declare for the draft early and still don't get drafted. Especially in basketball, where there are only 2 rounds of the draft. Even in baseball, it would let the kids go to college, mostly for free, and learn to play there instead of floating around the lowest minor league for a year or two before burning out.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:02 am to pvilleguru
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Even in baseball, it would let the kids go to college, mostly for free, and learn to play there instead of floating around the lowest minor league for a year or two before burning out.
well baseball players don't even declare for the draft. if they're not drafted where they want to be after their junior year, they can come back. players who are draft eligible as sophomores because of their age, can theoretically be drafted 4 times in their life if they were to redshirt and stay in college 5 years. those college basketball players that don't get drafted can still go overseas and make a pretty good amount of money. regardless, the system in place for college basketball is why the product sucks. the best players leave after a year or two, before they've developed as players, and the players that do stick around to learn the game aren't as talented. so in the end, you get a watered down product that is awful.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:07 am to ArabianKnight
Rupp Arena seats more than the United Center, the biggest NBA arena. Mississippi State seats less than half of Marlins Park, the smallest MLB stadium. You figure it out.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:24 am to UKWildcats
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Rupp Arena seats more than the United Center, the biggest NBA arena. Mississippi State seats less than half of Marlins Park, the smallest MLB stadium. You figure it out.
Marlins Park is lucky to outdraw SEC women's basketball games most nights.
I don't really know what any of this has to do with anything just felt like pointing that out.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 10:25 am
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:27 am to everest
Well, since we have already experienced extreme success in baseball (and should continue to.)
I'll go with basketball. I was a student at LSU when the Deaf Dome used to go absolutely berserk. I long for those days again....
I'll go with basketball. I was a student at LSU when the Deaf Dome used to go absolutely berserk. I long for those days again....
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:28 am to everest
College basketball even though it is at its lowest point in the last quarter century (attendance & TV viewership) is still more popular than college baseball which is growing at a brisk pace(only NCAA hockey is growing at a faster clip).
If the trend continues maybe in ten years this roles might be reverse but basketball is currently the more popular of the two sports.
NCAA basketball average attendance has fallen from 5,327 in 2006, to 4,817 last season, nearly a 10% decline. TV ratings on ESPN have fallen 6% from last year, and over 20% from a decade ago.
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If the trend continues maybe in ten years this roles might be reverse but basketball is currently the more popular of the two sports.
NCAA basketball average attendance has fallen from 5,327 in 2006, to 4,817 last season, nearly a 10% decline. TV ratings on ESPN have fallen 6% from last year, and over 20% from a decade ago.
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