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re: Worst top 25 ballot ever?

Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:24 am to
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:24 am to
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His theory is that LSU had the best win so far
This still doesn't change my earlier post. Nobody but a handful of LSU homers would agree with him
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:25 am to
Bama is too high
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95129 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:25 am to
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This still doesn't change my earlier post. Nobody but a handful of LSU homers would agree with him
His rankings arent based on feelings and predictions and unicorn farts. It is based on only on field results
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:27 am to
Not really. There are only 2 or 3 options after week 1 (LSU, UGA and aTm) It is a legitimate opinion that he is more than willing to deviate from when more games are played and we have more information.

He votes better than most AP or Coach's poll voters and is willing to move teams up and down drastically based on what happens on the field.
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 9:28 am
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:28 am to
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Here's his final ballot from last year. Notice how it all comes out in the wash.


Anybody can adjust their ballot after being proven wrong. If people are saying his first ballot will reflect the way things look at the end of the season, I laugh out loud at them
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95129 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Not really. There are only 2 or 3 options after week 1. It is a legitimate opinion that he is more than willing to deviate from when more games are played and we have more information.

He votes better than most AP or Coach's poll voters and is willing to move teams up and down drastically based on what happens on the field.
Yep, this guy votes exactly how this board wants. But when the rednecks actually see something different they freak out. Imagine that
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35345 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:30 am to
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If people are saying his first ballot will reflect the way things look at the end of the season, I laugh out loud at them



Which isn't his goal.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:30 am to
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Anybody can adjust their ballot after being proven wrong.
That is what they are suppose to do.

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If people are saying his first ballot will reflect the way things look at the end of the season, I laugh out loud at them
No one, especially not the voter, is claiming this.
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 9:31 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95129 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:30 am to
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Anybody can adjust their ballot after being proven wrong. If people are saying his first ballot will reflect the way things look at the end of the season, I laugh out loud at them
So, you are cool with a 2 loss Bama being ranked ahead of an undefeated Auburn at the end of the year right? Because rankings should be based on who we "think is better" and not on field results
Posted by VivaRossBarnett
1962
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:32 am to
Ole Miss should be 8 at worst
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:32 am to
Looks fine to me after one week



why do you care OP? The AP poll has no meaning. What are your jimmies rustled? Bama too low so your day is ruined?
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11319 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:33 am to
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It is based on only on field results



It's not consistent throughout the poll, though. LSU, aTm, and UGA at the top? Fine. There is no legitimate reason for USC to be right behind them or for Auburn to be so low.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:35 am to
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quote:
He tries to rank teams based on what they've actually done on the field as much as possible
His view of what teams have done on the field must be different than everybody else who watches college football. Nobody but this clown and a handful of LSU homers would say LSU was anywhere close to the most impressive team this weekend even if you take into account who they played
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:35 am to
Read the voter's explanation and then wait until about week 8 or so to worry about his rankings.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:36 am to
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There is no legitimate reason for USC to be right behind them or for Auburn to be so low.



USC looked good. Auburn wasn't as good as advertised against an Arkansas team that the consensus is that they are putrid. Some of you confuse your (perhaps even legitimate) disagreement with the argument that his ballot cannot be rationalized or justified. Don't do that. It makes one look stupid.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:40 am to
Based on what I saw, LSU is borderline top 20. Wisconsin at 10? Did he watch the second half of that game??

LSU fans keep bringing up that his poll is based on "on the field" results. LSU's on the field results were suspect at best. Heck half of LSU's fanbase were lighting their torches at halftime.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19059 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:41 am to
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1 LSU (1) 1-0 926 13

6 Alabama (1) 1-0 1,317 2



And it only took one week!
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:41 am to
I still don't see much difference between this guy and other voters except his view of who the best teams are is completely different from anyone else in the known universe.

His votes reflect his opinion of the best teams from week to week and then he adjusts his poll when proven wrong. A lot of other voters do the same thing
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:43 am to
It's hard to explain this to someone who appears incapable of understanding it, so I shouldn't even try.

The easiest thing is, no one gives a shite what you think you saw. Read his article if you want his justification. Your real beef is you looked at the ballot and didn't see Bama in the top two, so you lost your mind.

His preseason poll:

quote:

1. Florida State: A dominant offensive line, Heisman winning quarterback (Jameis Winston) and manageable schedule make the Seminoles the team to beat. If Winston stays out of trouble (off the field), FSU has a great chance to repeat.

2. Ohio State: The defensive front is loaded and QB Braxton Miller’s back. What’s more, tOSU misses the best of the Big Ten’s West division.

3. Alabama: The tailbacks and receivers are as good as any in the country – all they need is someone to distribute the ball (either Jacob Coker or Blake Sims). Oh, and Georgia and South Carolina are not on the schedule.

4. Oklahoma: If quarterback Trevor Knight stays healthy – he couldn’t last year — the Sooners should contend for the title. Their defense will be good enough to stop anyone in the Big 12.

5. Wisconsin: Melvin Gordon leads a first-class power game, but the reason for this lofty ballot position is the schedule: The Badgers miss Ohio State, Michigan State and Michigan, which makes 10+ wins, and a gaudy end-of-season ranking, quite possible.

6. Oregon: Marcus Mariota one of the top-three players at the most important position, and the Ducks miss both USC and ASU. But Oregon must get bigger and tougher to beat Stanford and run the table.

7. Michigan State: The Spartans have more than enough experience and playmakers to hold their own in Eugene on Sept. 6 in the top non-conference game of the season.

8. UCLA: The offensive line should do a better job protecting Brett Hundley and opening running lanes. There are playmakers throughout the defense. In other words: No excuses, Bruins.

9. Georgia: Tailback Todd Gurley returns, along with eight defensive starters. And the Dawgs miss both Bama and LSU.

10. Baylor: Bryce Petty’s return offsets what figures to be a spotty defense. The soft schedule means Baylor should be undefeated heading to Austin on Oct. 4.

11. USC: Not much margin for error because of depth issues, but the starting 22 is awfully good. Sark won’t have much time to figure things out given the front-loaded schedule.

12. Stanford: Four new starters up front, no proven tailback, a retooled defense and brutal road schedule (Oregon and UCLA, for starters) make a fifth consecutive season of 11+ wins unlikely.

13. Auburn: We’ll assume the Tigers used up their miracles last fall and return to the pack.

14. Mississippi: The first of four sleepers on my ballot, largely due to the return of QB Bo Wallace and nine defensive starters.

15. Marshall: With Rakeem Cato at the controls and a soft schedule, the Herd is the best bet to bust the BCS … err, never mind.

16. LSU: The Tigers lost a ton of talent and the schedule is rugged. But it’s LSU, and LSU always finds a way to win 10+ games. (OK, maybe not always. But seven of the past nine years.)

17. Virginia Tech: Quarterback Logan Thomas’ departure leaves a sizable hole, but the Hokies have returnees everywhere else and a schedule that does not include Clemson or Florida State.

18. South Carolina: The loss of Jadeveon Clowney isn’t as significant as the departure of Connor Shaw, who threw one – count ‘em: ONE – interception last year.

19. Oregon State: Sleeper No. 2 … The return of quarterback Sean Mannion, combined with a renewed commitment to the running game and improved defense, should vault the Beavers onto the top tier of the Pac-12.

20. Iowa: Sleeper No. 3 … The Hawkeyes have a well-stocked offense and don’t play Michigan State, Ohio State or Michigan.

21. Boise State: First-year HC Bryan Harsin inherits an elite tailback in Jay Ajayi (1,400 yards) and reliable quarterback in Grant Hedrick.

22. Notre Dame: The good: Everett Golson is back to (presumably) run Brian Kelly’s option attack. The bad: The schedule, which includes Michigan, Stanford, Florida State, Arizona State, Northwestern, North Carolina and USC.

23. Texas Tech: Sleeper No. 4, and here’s why: Kliff Kingsbury can coach, and the schedule is soft enough for the Red Raiders to pile up wins before a difficult November.

24. Northwestern: The Wildcats return 17 starters, but is there enough quality depth for them to compete for the B1G title? Probably not.

25. Duke: Good coach (David Cutcliffe) + veteran QB (Anthony Boone) + soft schedule = eight or nine wins.


To his mind, LSU beat the team he believed was the fifth best in the country. Right or wrong, he can justify what he did.
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 9:47 am
Posted by Kritten
Athens, Ga
Member since Sep 2014
1594 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:44 am to
Agenda noted.
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