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re: With the 2 new schools, whats the academic order in the SEC
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:06 pm to charliethehun
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:06 pm to charliethehun
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whats the academic order in the SEC
This is a fukin football board Melvin and its football season. WTF
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Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:26 pm to Turf Taint
AAU already has two members in Georgia. They don't want a 3rd member in the same state. UGA also has no problem with grants and funding because the majority of legislators the state sends to DC are UGA grads and funnel pork with the best of them. Although UGA isn't a medical school, it is a very large and prestigious medical research school. For example, UGA is one of only three US universities that are allowed by federal law to do embryonic stem cell research. What does UGA need the AAU for, and what does the AAU need UGA for? Does anyone really believe Mizzou is a better school than UGA because they have AAU status? Nobody believes this. Not even AAU worshippers.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:46 pm to dallastiger55
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Just like with sports, when people think Mizzou they don’t think academics
When people think electricity, internet service, dental and all around good hygiene, they sure as hell don’t think Louisiana.
All that talent and couldn’t hit pay dirt near the goal line. SMH
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 8/6/21 at 1:08 pm to GetCocky11
US News rankings? 
The CWUR, which at least takes academics into consideration, and isn't pay-to-play has national rankings as follows:
TU - 21
Vandy - 32
aTm - 41
UF - 47
UGA - 73
Mizzou - 77
UT - 84
UK - 99
LSU - 100
SC - 107
Oklahoma - 114
OM - 122
Bama - 129
Arkansas - 146
Auburn - 153
Miss State - 171
From that I would tier it
Tier I
Texas, Vandy, UF, aTm
Tier II
Georgia, Mizzou, UT
Tier III
Kentucky, LSU, USC, OU, OM, Bama
Tier IV
Arkansas, Auburn, Miss St.
The CWUR, which at least takes academics into consideration, and isn't pay-to-play has national rankings as follows:
TU - 21
Vandy - 32
aTm - 41
UF - 47
UGA - 73
Mizzou - 77
UT - 84
UK - 99
LSU - 100
SC - 107
Oklahoma - 114
OM - 122
Bama - 129
Arkansas - 146
Auburn - 153
Miss State - 171
From that I would tier it
Tier I
Texas, Vandy, UF, aTm
Tier II
Georgia, Mizzou, UT
Tier III
Kentucky, LSU, USC, OU, OM, Bama
Tier IV
Arkansas, Auburn, Miss St.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 8/6/21 at 1:10 pm to deeprig9
The AAU doesn't care how many schools in state they have. They aren't looking for TV dollars.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 1:32 pm to charliethehun
Enh a lot of this that some schools tend to specialize or are hampered by not having a tremendous amount of teachers from an Ivy League, or Little Ivy, school. So there fore they must be bad.
Can you get a business degree from, say, the Walton College of Business at Arkansas, get hired on at one of the Fortune 500 businesses in NW Arkansas, and be able to retire at 50? Well. Yeah.
LSU and A&M churn out a lot of graduates in specialized fields who will be wiping their behind with 100 dollar bills when they are in their 50s.
Other schools can boast of similar results.
Plus... making 40K in New York City means you are probably giving out handjobs behind the Greyhound bus station to make ends meet. In a lot of the South you might not be well to do but you are probably comfortably middle class on that budget.
Can you get a business degree from, say, the Walton College of Business at Arkansas, get hired on at one of the Fortune 500 businesses in NW Arkansas, and be able to retire at 50? Well. Yeah.
LSU and A&M churn out a lot of graduates in specialized fields who will be wiping their behind with 100 dollar bills when they are in their 50s.
Other schools can boast of similar results.
Plus... making 40K in New York City means you are probably giving out handjobs behind the Greyhound bus station to make ends meet. In a lot of the South you might not be well to do but you are probably comfortably middle class on that budget.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:08 pm to Mulkey Man
Agreed. I have people who work for me from Harward, Cambridge, Princeton, McGill, and a bunch of State schools.
By far the brightest person working for me went to Wisconsin. In fact if I had to rank them by their usefulness or who would be promoted to management not many from the "prestigious" school would be in the top half. The advantage they do have is the network they have built coming out of school is crazy.
Now if I ranked from social awkwardness or the ability to not creep people out that would be upside-down.
By far the brightest person working for me went to Wisconsin. In fact if I had to rank them by their usefulness or who would be promoted to management not many from the "prestigious" school would be in the top half. The advantage they do have is the network they have built coming out of school is crazy.
Now if I ranked from social awkwardness or the ability to not creep people out that would be upside-down.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:10 pm to GentleJackJones
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Vanderbilt isn't an Ivy League school. It isn't even the best private university in the South. That is Duke. One can make an argument that Emory is comparable to Vanderbilt as well.
The best private university in the South is Rice.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:14 pm to SEC. 593
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TU - 21 Vandy - 32 aTm - 41 UF - 47 UGA - 73 Mizzou - 77 UT - 84
UT is Tennessee, TU is the University of Tulsa. The hippie commune in Austin is commonly abbreviated as t.u.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:20 pm to SEC. 593
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Tier I
Texas, Vandy, UF, aTm
I’ll take it
Realistically -
1 TX
2 Vandy
3 UF & A&M
4 UGA & Mizzou
5 UT, UK, LSU, OM, OU, Bama
6 Ark, MSST, Auburn
But even at the bottom those universities can have really good individual colleges and departments / niches. It’s hard to be an all around great university in every subject.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:21 pm to charliethehun
I have graduated from 3 universities, all 3 different "tiers".
Here is my summary. Who YOU are at 18 matters much more than your university letters at 21 (exceptions: some of the Ivy and some exceptionally reputed universities like U of Chicago, Duke for example), do carry much weight, particularly in specific fields (eg, top tier consultancy firms, hedge fund industry, etc.).
I recently went back to get 2nd masters/wrapped up few months ago. Taught by graduates of top tier schools. I find it is closer to similar than distinct in most places. Certainly not all...
Here is my summary. Who YOU are at 18 matters much more than your university letters at 21 (exceptions: some of the Ivy and some exceptionally reputed universities like U of Chicago, Duke for example), do carry much weight, particularly in specific fields (eg, top tier consultancy firms, hedge fund industry, etc.).
I recently went back to get 2nd masters/wrapped up few months ago. Taught by graduates of top tier schools. I find it is closer to similar than distinct in most places. Certainly not all...
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:23 pm to AustinAggie
Well I was waiting until they actually joined before giving them that honor. 
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:28 pm to VolsUberAlles
quote:I'd say that's a pretty accurate take.
Tier One - Vanderbilt
Tier Two - Florida, Georgia, A&M (maybe?)
Tier Two (B) - Everyone else
Florida and Georgia are slightly ahead of the pack, but everyone else (with the obvious exception of Vanderbilt, an elite academic institution) is absolutely in the same "generic southern flagship school" boat.
Rest assured, no one north of the Mason-Dixon/west of the Mississippi is gleefully hiring a Tennessee or Alabama graduate but tossing an otherwise-identical resume from Kentucky or Auburn.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:29 pm to charliethehun
Vandy
FL/TX/GA
Texas A&M
The Rest/Does it really matter?
FL/TX/GA
Texas A&M
The Rest/Does it really matter?
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:31 pm to AustinAggie
The University of Texas isn't over Vandy
signed, The University of Texas
signed, The University of Texas
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:42 pm to picollo
None of them are worth paying out of state tuition. That goes for any conference.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:46 pm to AustinAggie
That’s the worst tiered ranking I have ever seen. Kudos to you, moron.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:49 pm to Gunny Hartman
quote:It is so sad/precious how much our abbreviated name bothers you
UT is Tennessee, TU is the University of Tulsa. The hippie commune in Austin is commonly abbreviated as t.u.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:51 pm to SEC. 593
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US News rankings?
The CWUR, which at least takes academics into consideration, and isn't pay-to-play has national rankings as follows:
If it took "academics into consideration" it wouldn't massively overrate Missouri, which is by any account an average-at-best national university.
The CWUR is just as suspect as USNWR, just as likely to be pay-to-play susceptible, and adds the fun international intrigue of being UAE based and bankrolled.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:57 pm to Hellmet
quote:Arkansas, ladies and gentlemen.
Nobody cares about academics
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