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re: Will Vandy make it to the SECCG in the next few years?

Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:11 pm to
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The big three would have to have major regressions at the same time.


Big 3 = which teams.

This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 3:12 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:17 pm to
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Will Vandy make it to the SECCG in the next few years?


lulz ... no. Not in the next few decades even.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:18 pm to
Old guy lulzing. I love it.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:19 pm to
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People might have to think about this a little bit harder. I mean, the same answer would have been given if the OP had been asking about USC just a few years ago, right?


Need we really get into the differences ...

Facilities
Money
Talent Base
Coach
Fan Support
Lone in state SEC program
etc
etc
etc
Posted by GatorReb
Dallas GA
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:19 pm to
No....

They have to play Ole Miss each year. Auto loss there.
Posted by 615tider
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:23 pm to
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SECCG in the next few years


Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:31 pm to
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Will Vandy make it to the SECCG in the next few years?


While the probability is not high it is not impossible

Northwestern is proof a small private school in a sea of big state schools can compete at the highest level. Like Vanderbilt the purple cats had conference titles in the early days of football before vanishing for about 50 years only to resurface in the 1990's and winning 3 B1G conference championships in about 5 years with the one in 1995 landing them in the Rose Bowl.

While it would not happen overnight, if Vandy could string together a few 9-10 win regular seasons they could punch through to the next level and wind up in a SEC CCG. The bigger question is if they could hold it long enough without getting knocked down by a Florida or Georgia. Long term sustained success is by far the more elusive object and that probability would be very low.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:33 pm to
That's the problem. They have to catch UF and UG down in the same year.

That's not likely to happen but not unprecedented. How did Arky make it to two SECCGs? No flame. But didn't they catch the West while Bama was down and maybe Auburn was with tatertot?
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:35 pm to
Yeah, they'll have to get better and need UF and UGA to fall off. I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:41 pm to
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Yeah, they'll have to get better


That is the first step. Winning 9 or 10 in a single year means some of those games were underdog wins. Once you are winning 9 or 10 for 2 or 3 years in a row the underdog role goes away and you become the team with a target on your back. The other position is if you have a team winning 10 games a season the probability of winning 11 or 12 goes up rapidly because whatever you are doing is sustaining wins at that level.
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:44 pm to
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The other position is if you have a team winning 10 games a season the probability of winning 11 or 12 goes up rapidly


I hear ya, I'm just trying to figure out where all of these SEC wins are coming from.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:54 pm to
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I hear ya, I'm just trying to figure out where all of these SEC wins are coming from.


Look only to last season : 9-4 overall and 5-3 in conference :

The lone OOC game was lost late, winning puts you at 10-3
The South Carolina game could have gone Vandy's way, winning puts you at 11-2

Now it is just Florida (close still second half, and not a blowout by Gators) and Georgia (the blowout)
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 4:02 pm to
Who gets there first...Vandy, Tennessee, or Auburn?
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 4:06 pm to
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Who gets there first...Vandy, Tennessee, or Auburn?


Right now I would put Vandy over Auburn and Tennessee. However, if Butch can right the ship quickly the Vols have the best resources to bounce back with. Auburn is the wait and see. The big issue is nothing is static and changes occur from year to year.
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