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re: Will there always be an SEC Big 6?
Posted on 7/7/16 at 7:10 pm to Last Chance
Posted on 7/7/16 at 7:10 pm to Last Chance
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UGA deserves to be apart of the SEC elite a lot more than UT at the moment
UT won a title on the field.
Last title UGA won was in a poll after playing one of the weakest schedules in the history of Div. I-A football.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 7:15 pm to CharlieDay
If a school wins a NC out side of one of the big 6 then there would be a big 7.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 7:21 pm to Glorious
I made be in the minority but A&m will be the next power Sec school in the near future. It too much money,resources and high school talent in Texas. IF They hit on their next coach chit fall into place. No different from LSU when they got someone to lay foundation to become a consistent contender.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 7:25 pm to SmokeTide
A&M is in the shadow of the Real UT
There is truthfully only one college football power in Texas and that should never change
A&M has adopted the victim's mentality over the years
There is truthfully only one college football power in Texas and that should never change
A&M has adopted the victim's mentality over the years
Posted on 7/7/16 at 7:40 pm to Last Chance
Looking at it from Non-bias stand point I pick AM which is a coach away from putting it together. Just as any program can hire a bad coach or two. TCU, Baylor and to lesser degree Houston have been contenders into late into November for BCS championship berths or playoff slots in past few years....They are in Texas's shadow too....so don't see the argument in that.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 7:48 pm to SmokeTide
Baylor Self destructed
Houston has always had great teams throughout the years but nothing consistent
TCU is an old time SWC power from pre WWII but they even with a Rose Bowl win have not been able to expand their brand outside of the Metroplex
UT is a big name everywhere in Texas throughout the years. Maybe someone can usupr the throne but it has not happened in along time
A&M will not be the university
They no longer exist truthfully in Texas
Houston has always had great teams throughout the years but nothing consistent
TCU is an old time SWC power from pre WWII but they even with a Rose Bowl win have not been able to expand their brand outside of the Metroplex
UT is a big name everywhere in Texas throughout the years. Maybe someone can usupr the throne but it has not happened in along time
A&M will not be the university
They no longer exist truthfully in Texas
Posted on 7/7/16 at 7:50 pm to CharlieDay
over the years, the big 6 have earned their ranking. in the long run, yes, that could change. but the other 8 in the SEC simply have not sustained excellence for a long period. and call Georgia non deserving is a crock.
if some of you frickheads want to move up, earn it.
if some of you frickheads want to move up, earn it.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 7:53 pm to Last Chance
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A&M is in the shadow of the Real UT
You're an uninformed fool. The SEC casts shadows on every school in the South NOT in the SEC. texas included.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 7:57 pm to Masterag
That is what you thought and wished
Texas has always existed outside of the South
Texas may have historical ties to the South but it is it's own region
SEC does not mean a thing when you cross that Sabine River
Texas has always existed outside of the South
Texas may have historical ties to the South but it is it's own region
SEC does not mean a thing when you cross that Sabine River
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:08 pm to CaliTigerHB
Oops. Forgot Arkansas made it.
Well, you realize that none of those teams have won an SEC Championship, right?
Well, you realize that none of those teams have won an SEC Championship, right?
Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:27 pm to Glorious
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Well when we add Oklahoma
Are you Scarbinsky or Tramel?
SEC doesn't need nor should choose Oklahoma(like Kevin Durant!)..
3 of the 4 SEC expansion teams have been to the West, time to go East and slightly upper-Atlantic Coast(Va and NC markets which have both grown by 1M per decade over the last 30 yrs)..academia, wealth, Basketball/Baseball recruiting..
Oklahoma, has 3.9M people up a mere 900K the last 36 yrs total, has but two metros of any note, is a defacto Texas school that mooches it's rosters and much of it's students from Texas..
Every program or sport they excel in is one the SEC already boasts in spades..
SEC Expansion doesn't need to happen at all, nor anytime soon, but if/when, needs to be into the ACC/BE/Big10 seaboard grab bag..not barren Lower Middle America/Indian Nation.
Oklahoma only offers lore..SEC already has that.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:30 pm to Sid E Walker
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It's about to become the Big 3 if UT, UGA, and AU don't pick up the pace.
One of those is not like the others...
Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:41 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
SEC does not have Texas
Sorry to damage your ego but A&M cannot carry their own weight let alone the state of Texas
Sorry to damage your ego but A&M cannot carry their own weight let alone the state of Texas
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:02 pm to Last Chance
I have no problem adding another Texas school, but would prefer not to. And as a kid pulled for OU vs Neb, Tex, TAM,etc..
But, as of now, they bring programs and lore..and no more. To add them is Indian Nation Welfare.
They mooch a football roster out of Dallas and Houston,etc..as do probably their Softball, Hoops, Bases, Gymnastics,etc..
I know their student base counts on such, read an article recently by their President commenting on it.
SEC doesn't need to add anything, but/if when, it needs Hoops pedigree in either schools or recruiting access, it needs closer proxy to Eastern Seaboard metros, alumni in power corridors of Govt(Va) and Research(NC), states with multiple schools to choose from, many villages to recruit from,etc..
Ask not the SEC what it can do for you(OU), but what you can do for the SEC(Va & NC)!
P.S. What part of my earlier post suggest anything of ATM? Texas is wide open territory for many conferences(as are fellow massive states Cali and Fla)..they were added for tv markets and recruiting access, not ATM athletic lore.
OU & UT aren't needed either, especially with Texas(the state) SEC entry now here. Hell, in 15 to 20 years the SEC could add TCU or Baylor as filler if needed, and not miss a beat. And even if ATM wants and gets with the help of LSU, Ark, Mo,etc..help on cockblocking of future Texas school recommendations..and ATM eventually dominates Texas recruiting..LSU, Bama,etc..will still pull their share of kids that want to play in the SEC..as will UT and OU even in weaker conferences.
But, as of now, they bring programs and lore..and no more. To add them is Indian Nation Welfare.
They mooch a football roster out of Dallas and Houston,etc..as do probably their Softball, Hoops, Bases, Gymnastics,etc..
I know their student base counts on such, read an article recently by their President commenting on it.
SEC doesn't need to add anything, but/if when, it needs Hoops pedigree in either schools or recruiting access, it needs closer proxy to Eastern Seaboard metros, alumni in power corridors of Govt(Va) and Research(NC), states with multiple schools to choose from, many villages to recruit from,etc..
Ask not the SEC what it can do for you(OU), but what you can do for the SEC(Va & NC)!
P.S. What part of my earlier post suggest anything of ATM? Texas is wide open territory for many conferences(as are fellow massive states Cali and Fla)..they were added for tv markets and recruiting access, not ATM athletic lore.
OU & UT aren't needed either, especially with Texas(the state) SEC entry now here. Hell, in 15 to 20 years the SEC could add TCU or Baylor as filler if needed, and not miss a beat. And even if ATM wants and gets with the help of LSU, Ark, Mo,etc..help on cockblocking of future Texas school recommendations..and ATM eventually dominates Texas recruiting..LSU, Bama,etc..will still pull their share of kids that want to play in the SEC..as will UT and OU even in weaker conferences.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:27 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
What A&M thought would happen did not happen with the move to the SEC
Have fun with them
Like I said Texas exists outside of any region in the US and if you think A&M will suddenly become a power you are only kidding yourself
Have fun with them
Like I said Texas exists outside of any region in the US and if you think A&M will suddenly become a power you are only kidding yourself
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:52 pm to Last Chance
Don't make me defend those delusional Aggies!
The SEC is a pretty tough nut to excel in. Sure, they are Texas 7-on-7 camp soft to date(all Texas schools are), but they are learning a few things as they try to regain some Slocumb Wrecking Crew toughness.
And their Hoops and Baseball programs have been respectable in conference.
Thus far it's been what the other SEC schools would have hoped for, the usage of Texas recruiting, and Tier dollars for tv, without adding a Texas school that put up a state fence grabbing all their best ballers at one SEC Texas institution and dominating. Win-Win.
Believe me, LSU was already recruiting in Texas like OU going back decades. Thus if it were to have been UT or ATM, and they fenced up and went ham, LSU fans wouldn't have liked it, but to date, LSU's backing of ATM for membership has been great.
They're as funny on this board as their cheerleader's unis and cheers are..starting to love those delusional bastards..they're like Hornfans without the hardware and arrogance..you gotta love Aggy/Arky/Old Myth chasing that elusive dream..one day!
Never thought such, but even their biggest foes would be smug to think that the pieces aren't in place, and resources in play, to think that it will never happen..it may take a while..but the day will come eventually. Too much money, nice facilities, in state recruiting, large alumni/enrollment, SEC West residence,etc..to not.
The SEC is a pretty tough nut to excel in. Sure, they are Texas 7-on-7 camp soft to date(all Texas schools are), but they are learning a few things as they try to regain some Slocumb Wrecking Crew toughness.
And their Hoops and Baseball programs have been respectable in conference.
Thus far it's been what the other SEC schools would have hoped for, the usage of Texas recruiting, and Tier dollars for tv, without adding a Texas school that put up a state fence grabbing all their best ballers at one SEC Texas institution and dominating. Win-Win.
Believe me, LSU was already recruiting in Texas like OU going back decades. Thus if it were to have been UT or ATM, and they fenced up and went ham, LSU fans wouldn't have liked it, but to date, LSU's backing of ATM for membership has been great.
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Have fun with them
They're as funny on this board as their cheerleader's unis and cheers are..starting to love those delusional bastards..they're like Hornfans without the hardware and arrogance..you gotta love Aggy/Arky/Old Myth chasing that elusive dream..one day!
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if you think A&M will suddenly become a power
Never thought such, but even their biggest foes would be smug to think that the pieces aren't in place, and resources in play, to think that it will never happen..it may take a while..but the day will come eventually. Too much money, nice facilities, in state recruiting, large alumni/enrollment, SEC West residence,etc..to not.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:59 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
You are forgetting the main point
UT made A&M great because they were considered the main opposition or rival
Now it is more Tech, Baylor or TCU
A&M is not anything without the Texas schools
It is a school without a home
LSU always recruited Texas but the other SEC universities do not understand the rules of Texas recruiting
Much different than the rest of the country
Ole Miss found this out
UT made A&M great because they were considered the main opposition or rival
Now it is more Tech, Baylor or TCU
A&M is not anything without the Texas schools
It is a school without a home
LSU always recruited Texas but the other SEC universities do not understand the rules of Texas recruiting
Much different than the rest of the country
Ole Miss found this out
Posted on 7/7/16 at 10:16 pm to Last Chance
Now, there I'll agree with you to a degree, and why Nebraska will suffer going forward. They like say OU lack much in-state talent, and without their old school traditional foes have lost luster and traction, along with post Dr Tom hires.
It's why I think OU and Texas need to be careful if ever deciding to not be in the same conference. Why UNC and Duke should never become unattached,etc..
It's why the SEC switched Thanksgiving Day Arky for ATM vs LSU, to try give ATM an UT replacement.
In the short term Aggies may have lost a lil something without the UT game, but JFF, beating Bama once, the road wins for a while, and their growing pains aside. I think they are a big enough boy to adjust without their in-state foes and in moving forward as a power school in the 3 men majors.
IMO, I would say schools like Mizzou(despite two East crowns), Maryland, Nebraska,etc..are having a tougher time building forward without their traditional rivals in certain sports than is ATM.
And Woody(Scott Woodward) is gonna be a good AD.
It's why I think OU and Texas need to be careful if ever deciding to not be in the same conference. Why UNC and Duke should never become unattached,etc..
It's why the SEC switched Thanksgiving Day Arky for ATM vs LSU, to try give ATM an UT replacement.
In the short term Aggies may have lost a lil something without the UT game, but JFF, beating Bama once, the road wins for a while, and their growing pains aside. I think they are a big enough boy to adjust without their in-state foes and in moving forward as a power school in the 3 men majors.
IMO, I would say schools like Mizzou(despite two East crowns), Maryland, Nebraska,etc..are having a tougher time building forward without their traditional rivals in certain sports than is ATM.
And Woody(Scott Woodward) is gonna be a good AD.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 10:16 pm to Last Chance
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A&M is not anything without the Texas schools
It's all a bunch of nonsense but that one is Texas sized.
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