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re: Will Kirby Smart be the one?

Posted on 7/1/17 at 9:58 am to
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 9:58 am to
Not really weird, considering Eason was a TRFR.

Also, I don't think Kirby will do any better than Richt. Kirby is a better recruiter, but Richt is the better coach IYAM.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:10 am to
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Kirby is a better recruiter, but Richt is the better coach


That's where I'm at with Kirby right now. I think we may have actually won more games with Lambert last year than Eason. It wasn't ending in a playoff birth in any case so maybe better that Eason get the game experience. Hopefully Kirby gets his shite together next year. His predecessor won the SEC his second year...Kirby should be able to win the East with the talent he's working with.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:21 am to
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He lost to UT, UF, and GT. That tells you all you need to know.

Maybe he'll beat GT from time to time but he has no hope against UF and UT.


Typical Vowel idiot. Knows nothing about football. Never played. Just goes to Walmart and buys an ugly orange shirt and he's a fan.

CKS was a first year HC with a freshman QB, if the refs had done their job and called one of the interferences on the Vowel "td", Kirby would have beaten UT on the road with the afore-mentioned. And UTe was supposed to be loaded with talent.

CBJ might beat Vandy from time to time, but he has no hope against UF and UGA. And will never, ever come close to beating Bama.

Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:29 am to
2 in a row
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15817 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:33 am to
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CBJ might beat Vandy from time to time, but he has no hope against UF and UGA. 






How did you celebrate when Georgia and Florida beat Tennessee last year? How did you celebrate your victory the year before that? Inquiring minds would like to know.
This post was edited on 7/1/17 at 10:35 am
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:34 am to
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I'd rather take some lumps and stack elite classes together. It's been proven time and time again that talent can overcome coaching deficiencies. Kirby was a first year HC. If he learns from his mistakes, he can become a pretty good coach. Add the talent he's bringing in and good things on the horizon.

Believe it or not, I would not want to trade places with Florida. Muschamp's dedensive talent is running out and McElwain hasn't done a great job replacing those guys.


This is a fair opinion up until the last sentence. Florida had several players play as true freshmen in the last two years, especially last year. The whole defense was true freshmen and sophomores by the bowl game I feel good about how Mac has restocked the talent on defense, and the talent on offense is clearly vastly improved.

The argument of "Muschamps defensive guys" is not a good one. Muschamp won 4 games and 7 games in his last two seasons. Mac won 10 games in his first two years with those same players and "his" guys. We're going to be fine without Muschamp players
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:40 am to
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The argument of "Muschamps defensive guys" is not a good one. Muschamp won 4 games and 7 games in his last two seasons. Mac won 10 games in his first two years with those same players and "his" guys. We're going to be fine without Muschamp players

We'll see. I don't see the defensive game changers that UF has had the last several years.

With Smart, time will tell. I'd rather take my chances with the recruiter. That guy at least has the opportunity to win big. I'm not interested in going to Atlanta to get shelled by Alabama because our players can't match up.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 11:21 am to
Not so long as Chaney is still there calling plays. Dude is terrible.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 11:52 am to
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The argument of "Muschamps defensive guys" is not a good one. Muschamp won 4 games and 7 games in his last two seasons.


I'm not necessary talking about the guys that played a ton under him. Just the guys that he brought in on defense. Those elite level guys are phasing out due to graduation and they haven't been replaced with the same quality, at least according to recruiting site ratings.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6711 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 12:08 pm to


Smart is Smart he will do very well

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63984 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 12:19 pm to
Kirby wasn't "stuck" with a true freshman qb. He had Lambert who had two years of starting under his belt as a 5th year grad transfer, and actually started the first few games.

Point is that Kirby said frick it, I have one honeymoon year so let's get Eason some starting experience and time will tell if that was a good investment or not.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 12:50 pm to
I think he is talking about winning a national championship. What he has done is on par with what Richt did . Hopefully he will be the next Mark Richt so the rest of the top programs in the SEC don't have to worry about UGA .
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20494 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 12:52 pm to
Lol, no...but he will make people miss mark richt.
This post was edited on 7/1/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Comp721
Member since Oct 2009
1585 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 12:56 pm to
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We will have too see

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to early

Well, you tried
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 1:19 pm to
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I'm not necessary talking about the guys that played a ton under him. Just the guys that he brought in on defense. Those elite level guys are phasing out due to graduation and they haven't been replaced with the same quality, at least according to recruiting site ratings.




Kylan Johnson, David Reese and Vosean Joseph outplayed their recruiting ranking last year as true freshmen linebackers. All three of those guys are going to get drafted in a few years if their freshmen campaigns are any indication, especially with how they came on in the absence of J Davis and Anzalone. Defensive line is as deep or deeper than when he got here. We need a defensive tackle to step up in the loss of Caleb Brantley, and Mac signed 3 four star DTs last year. Also still have Cece Jefferson who was a five star signed by Mac, as well as 4/5 star Antonneous Clayton, 3 star Keivonnis Davis, and 3 star Jabari Zuniga (who UGA fans should remember because he dominated the game against yall and broke the UF freshman sack record). I really like the way Mac evaluates guys out of high school. He has hit on several underrated 3 stars out of high school that have turned into studs as true freshmen out of nowhere. He inherited a ridiculous core of DBs that have to be replaced, and he signed 5 four star DBs last year to answer those concerns. Florida's DBs this year should be good and experienced again- Duke Dawson, Chauncey Gardner(Mac guy), Marcell Harris, and Nick Washington. Plus all the freshmen who will be fighting for playing time.

I think Mac has instituted a good culture and Randy shannon will keep the defense playing at a high level. The only thing that concerns me slightly about our defense is depth at linebacker and defensive tackle. We have quality and capable bodies, they just need to get their experience.
This post was edited on 7/1/17 at 1:21 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32859 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 3:10 pm to
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I'm biased, but I think being able to win immediately when the prior regime couldn't is impressive. It's at least a little concerning that Kirby took a consistent 9-10 win team and won 7 games. He's selling y'all on the vision just like he's selling recruits, and that's obviously working, but I just think y'all have to demand a little bit more on the field and stop giving him a pass for how bad he coached in games last year just because he is recruiting good.


You aren't very knowledgeable about our 2015 team or the quality of our 2016 roster.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32859 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 3:14 pm to
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Kirby wasn't "stuck" with a true freshman qb. He had Lambert who had two years of starting under his belt as a 5th year grad transfer, and actually started the first few games.


Point is, he was stuck with a bad qb situation. Lambert sucked arse and Eason had a long way to go.
Posted by kbrake37
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2016
3094 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 3:31 pm to
I think Richt recruited talented enough players to win at UGA. I cant think of any areas of weakness, lines were normally solid.

I think his problem was he didnt recruit players with that killer instinct, mean badass players. They were soft
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32859 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 3:33 pm to
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I cant think of any areas of weakness,


That's why you shouldn't be talking.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63984 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 3:37 pm to
Lambert had shitty OL too, and lost Chubb halfway through season, yet still managed to set an ncaa single game completion record
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