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re: Why does Mettenberger get a free pass for the last drive?

Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:25 am to
Posted by 6nmylifetime
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:25 am to
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LSU missed the FG with 1:34 left in the game. That means Bama only had 1:34 seconds in the game to score something.

Yeldon scored with 0:51 left in the game. That means that LSU had 0:51 left to score something.

1:34 - 0:51 = 0:43

This means that Bama's 73 yard drive only took 43 seconds...which is LESS than the amount of time LSU had on the clock when they got the ball back.

LSU and Mettenberger showed how NOT to run a 2 minute offense when they got the ball. They were literally clueless on what to do in every aspect. Bama wasn't.


FlukerFlakes, you get it. That was the intent of the original post I just phrased it incorrectly. Of course it's always a sign of an empty hand when the only comeback another poster has is grammar and spell check.

You are spot on with Mett and LSU having no clue as to how to run a 2 minute O and thay have been given a free pass on it because they played the other 29 min and 9 sec of the second half so well. When the rubber met the road Mett folded like a napkin.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:01 pm to
Honest answer to the OP- McCarron was brilliant in last year's BCS game and was the highest rated passer in the conference, as the returning starter for the defending champs and unanimous #1 team. Do you give him a pass for the game due to his last drive?

Re Mett- we hoped his play wouldn't lead to too many turnovers and great Bama field position. For the game, he greatly exceeded expectations, and his play actually led to us being in position to win against y'all. He did far more than I personally hoped for.

A drive with less than a minute- it would have been miraculous; there's a reason it's called "miraculous" instead of "nice". Did I hope for it? Damn right I did, but he didn't have it in him yet. Considering he previously didn't have 3rd down conversions in him, he gets a pass from me. He showed the most single-game improvement of any QB in the country Saturday nite.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:02 pm to
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6nmylifetime


Why are you such a poor winner ?
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:04 pm to
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I know he played the game of his life Sat. night but dude froze up in crunch time. The fact is he had more time on the clock than A.J. for his teams last drive. He was facing soft coverage every play like A.J. supposedly was, and he only had a three man rush each play to worry about. All he managed to do was dump it off on one play and get sacked on another.


Because Saban would have bitched about the hurry-up offe-oh wait......
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:05 pm to
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6nmylifetime
I see you made yourself an alter. You might need another soon to change the 6...
Posted by RealityTiger
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:14 pm to
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Why does Mettenberger get a free pass for the last drive?
Why does it matter? What do you want Mettenberger to do? Wear a sign on Paul W. Bryant drive that says, "hey I'm Zach Mettenberger and I got a free pass for the last drive of 11/3/12..."
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:31 pm to
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However, yes I would have liked to have seen something better from the team.... I mean shite Hill could have just ran for the first down rather than trying to throw the ball out of bounds to stop the clock. Bottom line is coaching failed us from the 3rd down before Bama scored until the game ended.


Hill was hurt you retard.
Posted by Topan
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:47 pm to
Not Mett's fault. The three D-linemen Bama rushed on that drive had a stronger want than LSU's entire Offensive line. Made their arse quit.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 1:38 pm to
Mett had to dump it off because there was no one open. The sack happened for the same reason. Watch the replay. No one was open either play. Why don't you give your DB's a lot of the credit instead of ripping a first yr QB playing in the biggest game of his life? Why? Because that the bama way: criticize everyone else's play while their plays are great. I promise you, if AJ had not come thru on that last drive, his 1 for 9 second half performance would have made his life miserable back home. This is the main reason I detest most of bama's fans: they just don't know how to win with class. They have to make it ugly for the opposing team afterwards instead of celebrating the victory.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 7:28 pm to
How small is the penis of the OP. Tiny tiny I suppose
Posted by tiger chaser
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 7:42 pm to
Bama won. Why the obsession with mett? You trying to justify something to yourself?
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 7:44 pm to
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I know he played the game of his life Sat. night but dude froze up in crunch time. The fact is he had more time on the clock than A.J. for his teams last drive. He was facing soft coverage every play like A.J. supposedly was, and he only had a three man rush each play to worry about. All he managed to do was dump it off on one play and get sacked on another.


so? GFY
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 7:45 pm to
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This is the main reason I detest most of bama's fans: they just don't know how to win with class. They have to make it ugly for the opposing team afterwards instead of celebrating the victory.


Exactly. Very few are not assholes.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 7:47 pm to
Well thats just not true.

I would just ignore dumb arse threads like this. Yall are giving him the attention he is looking for. Mett played incredible enough for LSU to win that game, he is obviously not at all at fault.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 8:14 pm to
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Well thats just not true


well said

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Mett played incredible enough for LSU to win that game, he is obviously not at all at fault.


Good post.
Posted by 6nmylifetime
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 8:38 pm to
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Honest answer to the OP- McCarron was brilliant in last year's BCS game and was the highest rated passer in the conference, as the returning starter for the defending champs and unanimous #1 team. Do you give him a pass for the game due to his last drive?

Re Mett- we hoped his play wouldn't lead to too many turnovers and great Bama field position. For the game, he greatly exceeded expectations, and his play actually led to us being in position to win against y'all. He did far more than I personally hoped for.

A drive with less than a minute- it would have been miraculous; there's a reason it's called "miraculous" instead of "nice". Did I hope for it? Damn right I did, but he didn't have it in him yet. Considering he previously didn't have 3rd down conversions in him, he gets a pass from me. He showed the most single-game improvement of any QB in the country Saturday nite.


Best reply yet. Probably because he's the least butt hurt. The OP is really about how poor LSU executed a 2-minute offense, how bad Mett looked running it and how no LSU fan was willing to address it. Sorry but after watching it over and over it's a horribly ran possession against a three man rush. The clock didnt get LSU the decision making did.

First down ball on left hash: Mett under little pressure dumps the ball out to the wide side of the field to Hill who gets tackled after an 8 yrd gain. If your not going to take a 15-20 yrd shot down field then at least drop it off to #11 who is out to the left near the sideline. Danielson points out immediately that "That's a dangerous drop off because that eats up to much clock."

Second Down Middle of field: Mett under heavy pressure drops off to Hill. Can't blame him much here. The three man rush beat the o-line and forced the dump. Hill on the other hand tries to get out of bounds to stop the clock when getting the first would have done it. And for the poster who said "Hill was hurt". He got hurt on the tackle after he made the wrong decision to try and get out of bounds. What I don't understand is why the clock stopped at thirteen seconds since Hill didnt get out of bounds. I know the refs were spotting the ball but still a gift to LSU allowing them to get set for 1 more play.

Third Down Right Hash: Three man rush gets the sack but Mett holds the ball while guess who was wide open for the dump off near enough to the sideline to get out of bounds. That's right, Hill.

Sorry it rubs salt in the wounds but at least your not getting the disingenuous "You guys played great. You guys deserved to win". Which is what you really want to hear because it helps you little feelings.

Yeah I guess AJ has gotten a free pass due to the last drive. BAMA got away from running on first down in the second half and it bit them. Amari Cooper disappeared after half time and now it's reported that it's no serious injury. Dont know how you can sit out the second half Sat. night if there is anyway possible to play but AJ wasnt working with BAMA best stable of receivers. Still not a great second half. he did rush one in before half time though.
Posted by JudgeBoyett
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 8:56 pm to
There is a huge difference in context. First, Bama needed a field goal to tie and td to win with a minute and a half left and no timeouts. LSU HAD to score a td with 40+ seconds left and no timeouts. A field goal could not hurt BAMA. BAMA's offense had options. LSU's did not. What BAMA had to defend against was limited significantly by this context compared to what LSU had to defend against. Not trying to take away from BAMA's tremendous final drive but it was apples and oranges in terms of context. You can't compare the two because the defense had a
huge advantage on LSU's drive in terms of what the offense would try to do.
Posted by LSUFrosty
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 9:08 pm to
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The OP is really about how poor LSU executed a 2-minute offense, how bad Mett looked running it and how no LSU fan was willing to address it


Well no fricking shite you got flamed. You're a Bama fan and you trolled an entire fanbase after a tough fought loss in our stadium. If you don't see why your thread didn't go the way you planned it, then get the frick out.
Posted by 6nmylifetime
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 9:09 pm to
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What BAMA had to defend against was limited significantly by this context compared to what LSU had to defend against. Not trying to take away from BAMA's tremendous final drive but it was apples and oranges in terms of context. You can't compare the two because the defense had a
huge advantage on LSU's drive in terms of what the offense would try to do.


I disagree. Maybe once a team gets to mid field or beyond the scheme changes, but from your own 40 and back, you need yards, not points. The play calling is virtually the same because at that position on the field you need first downs. (Mett had Ridley open to the sideline all three plays).
Posted by 6nmylifetime
668 Neighbor to the Beast
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 9:11 pm to
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You're a Bama fan and you trolled an entire fanbase after a tough fought loss in our stadium. If you don't see why your thread didn't go the way you planned it, then get the frick out.



My feelings wont get hurt over whether or not a thread goes the way I want it to or not. If it was a troll it wasnt a hard fish to land.
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