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re: Why does everyone think Bama will just run all over OU?

Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:05 am to
Posted by Bamadiver
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:05 am to
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Saban loves to outscore people and put the onus on them to keep up. That's what Saban loves, and his team is designed for this very specific situation.
Know how I know you don't know jack about Saban and Alabama?

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Saban loves to outscore people
Dumb statement is dumb.

What Saban loves to do is get a lead, preferably running the ball, and then use the defense to squeeze the opponent's offense until it breaks. That's his formula. This year, Bama's defense was going to be a big question due to depth and experience. Just so happened to have Tua able to step in and up the offense's output, but make no mistake the formula has only been modified, not changed. The current offensive line was built to maul in the run game and has had to work at improving at pass blocking.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:06 am to
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What percent chance do you give your mighty soonerss to win?


Hard to say. Looking at the history of our series with Bama, what I can say is that it has never gone like all the motor-mouth "experts" expected it to do.

In the early Stoops era, we were the Bama of the college football world and Bama was down. We played them home and home and were the heavy favorites to win both and it wasn't supposed to be much of a game. That's not what happened in either game.

In the Sugar Bowl, we were 15.5 underdogs and expected to be routed easily by a 2 time national championship winning team. That's now what happened there either. What that tells me is that the underdog in this series never plays like an underdog, on either team.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:09 am to
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What Saban loves to do is get a lead, preferably running the ball, and then use the defense to squeeze the opponent's offense until it breaks. That's his formula.


Soooo......outscore them by throwing the ball all over the field, which is why Tua was up for the Heisman, and put the onus on them to keep up. I'm so dumb.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 11:12 am
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:09 am to
In the last 5 games Bama has played they they face 7 projected 1st round picks only on defense.

Seven.

Guess how many Oklahoma has or has faced.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:09 am to
I don't care.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:11 am to
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That's because you're an idiot. Bama isn't a power running team. They're an air attack. Ball control isn't what they do.
Bama will run their normal offense like they have all season and rely on their defense to get enough stops because their defense is better than ours. Because of course that's what they're going to do. Because that's what they're designed to do, dipshit.


Bama has powerful passing game this year and they've used it early and often. Bama has a top oline and 3 RBs that can pound it if needed. They will attack OU at the LOS, down in the trenches, run hard and gain chunks of yardage and then pick apart your DB's.

Now, OU is capable of scoring just like Bama - but if needed Bama can milk clock with the run and keep Murray's arse on the sideline irritated as hell that he can't get on the field to show his stuff.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:12 am to
You can stop telling me what Bama has. I've seen the tape.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:14 am to
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.outscore them by throwing the ball all over the field
Nope.

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I'm so dumb.
Clearly. By ignoring EVERY Saban coached Alabama team in favor of the current iteration you are proving to be either a troll or simply, in your own words, dumb. Saban's formula is to run first and throw when necessary. This is why every qb prior to Tua was labeled a game manager. This year we have Tua so you think the build of this team changed over night for a year one qb? That's rich. Yes, we can sling it. We can also do what we have always done and shove the ball right down an opponent's throat. That is why this team has been labeled (incorrectly in my mind), potentially the greatest of all time.

Edit: The fun part is Bama doesn't have to have a generational qb against OU, so this debate really is just mental masturbation. In any case, anything can happen in a single game. Good luck! May the odds be ever in your favor.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 11:18 am
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:18 am to
Remember, Alabama has been playing SEC teams, so throwing the ball is a must. Against a team with no decent DL he will run the ball all day long, end then run it some more

It will be like the Army game was for OU, but Alabama won't have to really punt.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25110 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:19 am to
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I don’t care


That’s the only thing that’s slowed Bama’s offense down.

Oklahoma does not have that kind of player on defense.

You should care because Bama will do as they wish on offense.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 11:30 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141005 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:20 am to
No guess at all?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:20 am to
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Against a team with no decent DL he will run the ball all day long, end then run it some more


I think we're just going to run our offense, and that offense is based around RPOs. So, if Oklahoma decides to take away the run by crowding the line, we'll throw. If not, we'll run.

Sounds simple but the fact that Oklahoma will have to over-commit to one or the other makes it pretty simple. Just have to execute.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
22406 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:22 am to
Well, OU does have the worst secondary in all of CFB, so I'm sure Bama is going to throw it some. Hard to resist the temptation
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11101 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:23 am to
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Nope.



Clownboy......Tua was invited to NYC for a reason, not your RBs. It's because Tua throws the ball all over the field. In fact he threw 37 TDs. But you keep telling me Saban loves to "preferrably running the ball" all you want.

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Clearly. By ignoring EVERY Saban coached Alabama team in favor of the current iteration you are proving to be either a troll or simply, in your own words, dumb. Saban's formula is to run first and throw when necessary.


No it very clearly is not. It was four years ago maybe, but it's not now. I know things move slow where you are, but you might actually want to watch 2018 Alabama play offense.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30289 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:23 am to
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You can stop telling me what Bama has. I've seen the tape.


Tell us what OU has to defend Bama's offense then. Dline? LBs? DBs? Tell what kind of script Riley intends to use to stop Bama from scoring at will with the run and the pass.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:26 am to
Yea, I don't know about all that. Our philosophy is certainly not run first anymore.

We're pretty much dead even balance in 1-3 qtrs this year (when we are running full playbooks)

1st 3 Qtrs
331 passes (48.5%)
352 rushes (51.5%)
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30289 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:29 am to
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No it very clearly is not. It was four years ago maybe, but it's not now. I know things move slow where you are, but you might actually want to watch 2018 Alabama play offense.


Above all, Saban wants a balanced offense and he has it in 2018. He also wants a smart, fast, aggressive, strong and powerful defense and he has that too.

Can OU say the same about their team?
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11101 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:29 am to
Correct. That's because Bama's offensive philosophy is clearly not "run first and throw only when necessary" anymore. It's disturbing that some of your fans think that's still Nicks M.O. He has changed everything about your team, on both sides of the ball, in clear view of the entire world.

It's line up and take what the defense gives them and be prepared to run or pass based upon the defense, and be able to do both very well.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:31 am to
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Correct. That's because Bama's offensive philosophy is clearly not "run first and throw only when necessary" anymore. It's disturbing that some of your fans think that's still Nicks M.O. He has changed everything about your team, on both sides of the ball, in clear view of the entire world.

It's line up and take what the defense gives them and be prepared to run or pass based upon the defense, and be able to do both very well.





Correct - and a large chunk of our playbook is literally an option to do that during the play. Like most smart coaches Saban experienced prepping for it as a defensive guy and realized it was nearly impossible to stop when executed properly by good players.
Posted by Hook Em Horns
350000 posts
Member since Sep 2010
15140 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:32 am to
Jesus Christ. You used the transitive property you dolt. Which clearly doesn’t work in college football.
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