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re: Who wins the SC v. UGA game and why?

Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:20 pm to
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Yes and no. I get what you're saying, and I absolutely see the parallels to the LSU game last year. USC bought into their own hype before that game, and that, coupled with the flu that went around, let to a drastic let down in a game that they really needed to win.

The difference between this UGA game and last year's LSU game is that we have a lot more film and familiarity between the two programs. No one knew how USC and LSU were going to match up. With regards to UGA, USC has shown the last three years that they have an advantage at d-line. With what little evidence that has been shown so far this season, there is little reason to doubt that this advantage will continue.

All this leads me to reiterate my original position. My head says USC, my heart says heartbreaker.

I thought that excuse only applied to the UF game?
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13260 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:22 pm to
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I thought that excuse only applied to the UF game?

You know how football groupies are. Dem hoes is always spreadin' the bug, keepin' that shite around.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5893 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:32 pm to
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I thought that excuse only applied to the UF game?


Seriously, as I understood it, it went through the locker room for a stretch of 10 days or so.

I'm not making excuses; USC got their shite kicked in against UF. No excuse.

That said, I would have loved to have seen a rematch in that game. But, hey, didn't happen.
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:39 pm to
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With that logic, based in so much reality, I would say to take a look at the SC v. UNC game.

Take away the Mike Davis 75 yd run and he rushes for 50 yds on 11 carries. That's quite paltry against a team like UNC.

Take away Shaq Roland's 65 yd TD and Shaw is 10-19 for 84 yds.

Hell, take away those two big plays and the score is 13-10.


shite. I saw the game and didn't come away impressed with South Carolina on either side of the ball. I know the game doesn't always work this way, but I like to see a team earn all their points. From my observation, most huge plays given up are due to defensive mistakes and not offensive execution, e.g. missed tackles, bad angle, being out of position, poor effort, not getting off a block, etc. "Earned" points don't happen in one big play and don't require a bunch of defensive errors or penalties.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50580 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:42 pm to
SC. Because Richt.
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:42 pm to
They're playing what appears to be a good LSU team at home early instead of Mississippi State or Ole Miss. South Carolina has the easy schedule this season, let's see if UGA can prove themselves to be the best and win the East for a change. The past two seasons, the East was given to them.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:48 pm to
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shite. I saw the game and didn't come away impressed with South Carolina on either side of the ball. I know the game doesn't always work this way, but I like to see a team earn all their points. From my observation, most huge plays given up are due to defensive mistakes and not offensive execution, e.g. missed tackles, bad angle, being out of position, poor effort, not getting off a block, etc. "Earned" points don't happen in one big play and don't require a bunch of defensive errors or penalties.



Roland and Shaw definitely "earned" the long TD. Idk what your definition of "earned" is, but Shaw made the right throw on time and Shaq got downfield behind his defender.

It's not whether the D fricks up or the O "earns" their points. It's a bit of the first and offensive execution.

You really think Davis' TD wasn't "earned"? The man ran for 75 yards without being caught. Pretty sure that is "earning" it.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:50 pm to
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They're playing what appears to be a good LSU team at home early instead of Mississippi State or Ole Miss. South Carolina has the easy schedule this season, let's see if UGA can prove themselves to be the best and win the East for a change. The past two seasons, the East was given to them.


Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:51 pm to
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You really think Davis' TD wasn't "earned"? The man ran for 75 yards without being caught. Pretty sure that is "earning" it.


not to mention he bounced off of a couple tackles in the beginning to get outside and take it to the house
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:51 pm to
I understand your sentiments regarding Shaw now. Thanks for the clarification.

You might want to revisit the Box Score of the LSU game. I watched it, and I know that LSU outplayed you. There is a general formula for winning in the SEC.
A. You've got to be able to slow down the run.
B. You've got to be able to run the ball effectively.
South Carolina averaged 1.4 yards per rush versus LSU on 25 attempts. South Carolina only had 211 yards compared to LSU's 406. South Carolina made the final score of the game with less than 2 minutes to go to make the score 23-21 instead of 23-14. Texas A&M, Alabama, and Clemson all scored on late drives versus LSU too. It was a problem LSU had, but it doesn't take away from their dominance of South Carolina, Texas A&M, and (to an extent) Alabama.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:56 pm to
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B. You've got to be able to run the ball effectively.


We let this get out of hand.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13474 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:56 pm to
Carolina. UGA D is lacking....

Clowney is about to go off on Murray.


USCe 24

UGA 21

Late TD does the Ga Dogs in, I'm afraid....
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:56 pm to
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2010--Lots of zone read w/ Lattimore that gashed us

2011--Came out w/ plenty of zone read w/ Lattimore and gashed us, but the D played well enough to win the game. Murray and special teams killed us.

2012--Grantham was geared up to stop Lattimore and Spurrier beautifully used him as a decoy to gash our D (who overpursued all game long)with PA passes and QB runs. We paid dearly for focusing so heavily on Lattimore.

2013:

No Lattimore, so I see us playing this game much more straight up and less with our eyes in the backfield.

Benefit? Shaw hurts us less with his legs and the PA doesn't burn our safeties.

Drawback? The SC OL greatly outweighs our DL this year, so our unproven DL will have to win some 1 on 1 battles for this strategy to be effective.

Counter? Spurrier brings in Thompson for much more action than against UNC (obviously)

Benefit? Our young DBs are apt to get exposed, see Clemson.

Drawback? Our young DBs actually before better against Clemson than I anticipated as Langley and Matthews performed well on the road against the pass. Connor Norman killed us, but he immediately goes to 3rd on the depth chart this week as we get two safeties back, including the much hyped JHC. SC has nobody even close to Sammy Watkins level.

Counter: Your TEs are much more effective than the TEs Clemson trotted out there, so our young DBs can't merely worry about who is split wide.

It'll be a chess match all game long between Grantham and Spurrier. I actually hope Spurrier abandons the run somewhat, especially early.

On the other side of the ball, the important matchup is no secret. If our OL plays as physical as it did against Bama and UF last year, then our offense will score its fair share. If we play like we did @ Clemson and @ SC last year, then we're going to need a ridiculously strong performance on D.

I honestly don't know what to expect from the OL. It's the same OL that has been quite physical and the same one that has struggled. Same guys. Out of the 5 games above (including the current 2013 SC game), this is the only one in which we will play at home. Bama and UF were neutral, while Clemson and SC were on the road.

That gives me some hope. The last BIG game of the last 3 years that we had at Sanford was against Carolina in 2011 and we dropped 42.

Florida @ Miami then South Carolina @ Georgia are all I've got on Saturday's agenda. I'm looking forward to two great games.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:56 pm to
USC fans...is it true that your center has been on crutches all week?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58920 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:57 pm to
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The past two seasons, the East was given to them.


Not sure I disagree or agree with you on this one. You can make the point that we didn't earn it because SouCar beat us. but we DID beat Florida. Something SouCar could not do. I would argue that our game with SC was a fluke. They jumped on us and we could never get anything going. I seriously doubt if they were THAT much better than us last season. I mean, isn't that the argument they make in THEIR game with Florida? It was a fluke?

Did we have a MUCH easier schedule last year. No doubt. but we won the games we had to win and they LOST the games they had to win.

That said...I think it would be a certain amount of poetic justice if we found a way to beat them this year, then dropped a game to LSU and SouCar won the SEC East!
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:58 pm to
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USC fans...is it true that your center has been on crutches all week?



I believe so. But practice report from tonight: OL Coach says he doesn't think there will be any drop off at all with the backup. Nonfactor.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58920 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 3:00 pm to
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I saw the game and didn't come away impressed with South Carolina on either side of the ball.


Actually, I did. Remeber it wastheir first game...as it was everybody's. Alabama didn't look to good in their game either, considering Va. Tech had so many people out. But, I don't think if I were you I would be too concerned. It was first game. Uncharacteristic for you guys to play poorly in your first game...but it happens. SC didn't look like world beaters, but they played a pretty good team. Clowney was sick. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they won the East this year.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 3:01 pm to
2 non-agressive dawgs on one page in one thread? must be christmas... ha jokes jokes
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58920 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 3:02 pm to
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I believe so. But practice report from tonight: OL Coach says he doesn't think there will be any drop off at all with the backup. Nonfactor.



One of your guys came on our board earlier and said he felt the backup was actually better than the starter. Don't know what he based it on, but apparently they are both pretty good players.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58920 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 3:03 pm to
I like to troll LSU fans....but I try to be fair.


I said TRY.
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