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re: Who wins Round V of Saban Meyer

Posted on 12/2/16 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by Pride of Georgia
Wadley, GA
Member since Sep 2016
662 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 7:36 pm to
Urban is a better coach, just not as good as a recruiter.
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
955 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 7:45 pm to
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I really like Meyer. I think he is the second best coach of this generation in CFB.

That said, this is not one of his top 3-4 teams as a HC playing arguably CNS' most complete team.

tOSU had an awful Oct, caught an overrated Nebraska at home with a QB injury, and beat an awful Maryland.

They were largely outplayed by UM with Speight not 100% and were fortunate the D bailed them out.

Of the top 5, I like Bama's chances best against tOSU. Jt Barrett is a talented player, but he is not an accurate passer nor would he have time to be. The OSU run game isn't strong. It would come down to whose O can perform better against whose D... I like Bama big.

I feel like this is almost makeup to tOSU for last year when they had a more complete team left out.


Unfortunately agree with all this
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35504 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 7:46 pm to


Meyer is a fantastic recruiter.
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 8:14 pm to
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At this time I have to say Urban


Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 8:26 pm to
Bama will shut out tOSU if they play(keep them out of the end zone at least). I did agree with the poster who said tOSU defense would give Bama some problems, they are opportunistic and very fast sideline to sideline. I just see Bama's offense scoring in the mid to upper 20's.(well below their average) I see tOSU maybe getting a couple of field goals, and if they did get a td, it would be from their defense. Bama is at least two td's better than tOSU.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51534 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 8:29 pm to
I don't think OSU gets by Clemson, so we'll have to wait for that one.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35504 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 8:31 pm to
I'd like to get you guys in the semis. With a month to prepare I trust Meyer.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 9:33 pm to
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I'd like to get you guys in the semis. With a month to prepare I trust Meyer.


That means either Bama would have to lose to UF and drop to 4 or tOSU would have to drop to 4 somehow, without playing. To mean it is clear that Bama is 1 and tOSU is 2. I mean one loss in the best conference should be the highest rated one loss team. If this game even happens, it will be in the finals. I do understand why you would want it in the semis and if I were a Buckeye, I would too.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35504 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 9:42 pm to
I could see the committee dropping us behind Washington and Clemson. They could justify it with them being 12-1 conference championship game champs.

Yeah, I like our odds better with the extra preparation time.

ETA: I agree it's clear we're 1 and 2 given the resumes.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 9:44 pm
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16988 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 9:51 pm to
Saban, Bama wins by about 10. JT is struggling with the pass and we have specialized in stopping the running qb this year. I think Tosu def is pretty good, we may run our power package to soften them up. Tough package to stop.
Posted by VOLLeyLLama
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2016
411 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:57 am to
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That means either Bama would have to lose to UF and drop to 4 or tOSU would have to drop to 4 somehow, without playing. To mean it is clear that Bama is 1 and tOSU is 2. I mean one loss in the best conference should be the highest rated one loss team. If this game even happens, it will be in the finals. I do understand why you would want it in the semis and if I were a Buckeye, I would too.



OSU shouldn't even get into the playoff. The most ardent and avid Buckeye fans would agree with this. They aren't playing nearly as well as they did at the beginning of the season, the play calling has been horrible in certain situations, and a run defense that can be gashed at times. The object of the committee is to pick the four best teams, most complete, from start to finish, offense and defense, and Ohio State has zero passing game at this point. If you can't pass on Alabama with efficiency, you ain't beating Alabama. However I don't think Alabama is "at least two TDs better" than OSU. I think it would be something around 24-14 or 28-17.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:46 am to
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OSU shouldn't even get into the playoff. The most ardent and avid Buckeye fans would agree with this. They aren't playing nearly as well as they did at the beginning of the season, the play calling has been horrible in certain situations, and a run defense that can be gashed at times. The object of the committee is to pick the four best teams, most complete, from start to finish, offense and defense, and Ohio State has zero passing game at this point. If you can't pass on Alabama with efficiency, you ain't beating Alabama. However I don't think Alabama is "at least two TDs better" than OSU. I think it would be something around 24-14 or 28-17.

tOSU has the best record in the best conference. The committee is supposed to get the 4 teams with the 4 best resumes.(Their words, their only real criteria) tOSU has the second best resume. You are way overthinking it.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35504 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:48 am to
Nah, he's just a hater and can't stand the fact that they're getting in. There are quite a few of those on this board (understandably).
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23114 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:58 am to
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The most ardent and avid Buckeye fans would agree with this.


The most ardent and avid Buckeye fans are the ones on this board. You think the fans who don' care post on message boards?
Posted by wooooo
Member since Sep 2016
44 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:20 am to
I also think tOSU could slip up to Clemson. I see at least one big game for Deshaun in the playoffs.
Bama vs tOSU I'd have to go with Bama even though I'd rather them lose this year.
Posted by VOLLeyLLama
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2016
411 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:20 am to
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Nah, he's just a hater and can't stand the fact that they're getting in. There are quite a few of those on this board (understandably).


If I was a hater I wouldn't be giving the Buckeyes any type of credit. In fact I give them a lot of credit where it's due. I realize that they play in the toughest conference and only have one loss. My point is factual though, that they don't have a passing game. JT Barrett has actually regressed from two years ago. He can't hit a simple slant pass from Ten yards away. They can win against teams not named Bama or Clemson I think. So if they are matched up against Washington in the playoff they could win. But going against Bama, Clemson and maybe even Wisconsin again & I think they'd lose.
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