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re: Who is perceived to be your schools greatest Coach?
Posted on 9/20/13 at 6:31 pm to Tridentds
Posted on 9/20/13 at 6:31 pm to Tridentds
I have no real argument with that list, though Sherrill's "You can't prove it" will always and forever screw up my opinion. It's just hard for me to pick him #1 given the sanctions that resulted. On the other hand, I went to a lot of Cotton Bowls during his tenure, and it is hard to overlook that.
Bible only if you want to go back that far, but I'm not sure you can compare a coach in 1939 to today.
Emory Bellard was my favorite, but I'm biased because he was there when I was and because of his personality. I ran into him several times and he always stopped me to ask how I was doing, like we were lifelong acquaintances. That made a very big impression on me.
Honorable mention at the least: RC. Good coach, gentleman, never had any NCAA problems. In the "favorite" list he'd be right behind Bellard.
For me the "greatest" will soon be Kevin Damn Sumlin if it isn't already, and it isn't really close.
Bible only if you want to go back that far, but I'm not sure you can compare a coach in 1939 to today.
Emory Bellard was my favorite, but I'm biased because he was there when I was and because of his personality. I ran into him several times and he always stopped me to ask how I was doing, like we were lifelong acquaintances. That made a very big impression on me.
Honorable mention at the least: RC. Good coach, gentleman, never had any NCAA problems. In the "favorite" list he'd be right behind Bellard.
For me the "greatest" will soon be Kevin Damn Sumlin if it isn't already, and it isn't really close.
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 6:33 pm to HuggieBear
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TAMU: Bear Bryant and Dennis Franchione
You know you just jinxed Ole Miss, right?
Posted on 9/20/13 at 6:34 pm to pvilleguru
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Actually, we've had a few guys nicknamed "Bear".
Yeah, but the "big" Bear....only one. I had the good fortune of watching some of Bear's teams in person as well as Cholly Mac at LSU.....I really miss the way the old SEC was. Some really good football in those days....(not that it isn't today) It was just different.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 6:36 pm to finestfirst79
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TAMU: Bear Bryant and Dennis Franchione
You know you just jinxed Ole Miss, right?
I hear you.....the Franchione one was definetely a joke. I was curious if anyone was actually reading these posts....guess so. I think Sherrill was definetely your best.....but you've had some good ones....I liked Slocum in his earlier years....I really like Sumlin now....
TAMU: Bear Bryant and Dennis Franchione
You know you just jinxed Ole Miss, right?
I hear you.....the Franchione one was definetely a joke. I was curious if anyone was actually reading these posts....guess so. I think Sherrill was definetely your best.....but you've had some good ones....I liked Slocum in his earlier years....I really like Sumlin now....
Posted on 9/20/13 at 6:42 pm to finestfirst79
finestfirst79, I was a small kid when Ballard was there. My dad was at A&M after getting out of the army/Vietnam. My younger brother and I were sitting on the second row on the track when Ags beat UT 20-10. Was a crushing blow to lose to Arkansas later.
I am a Ballard fan also. Sherril was the coach when I was at A&M and I was at the Cotton Bowl vs Auburn and Notre Dame. Awesome teams and awesome times. Ags ruled the SWC under Sherril.
Sherrill is my personal favorite.
After suffering through so much offensive incompetence under RC I have a hard time saying he is one of our greatest coaches. Good guy... I agree.
Kevin Sumlin may turn out to be our greatest. He is certainly off to a great start.
I am a Ballard fan also. Sherril was the coach when I was at A&M and I was at the Cotton Bowl vs Auburn and Notre Dame. Awesome teams and awesome times. Ags ruled the SWC under Sherril.
Sherrill is my personal favorite.
After suffering through so much offensive incompetence under RC I have a hard time saying he is one of our greatest coaches. Good guy... I agree.
Kevin Sumlin may turn out to be our greatest. He is certainly off to a great start.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 6:51 pm to Tridentds
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Was a crushing blow to lose to Arkansas later.
My freshman year, and yes it was definitely crushing. Don't tell Hog fans, though.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 6:54 pm to Tridentds
Dan Devine or Don Faurot.
Dan Devine won more games, Don Faurot revolutionized offenses with inventing the split T.
Frank Broyles wasn't at Mizzou long enough.
Dan Devine won more games, Don Faurot revolutionized offenses with inventing the split T.
Frank Broyles wasn't at Mizzou long enough.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 6:57 pm to mattloc
Nick Saban is the greater Coach, Paul Bryant is easily the best MAN to ever lead the Crimson Tide.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 7:18 pm to Bama Bird
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Perceived? Coach Bryant
Actual? Wallace Wade
Actual? I would go with Frank Thomas
Played for Knute Rockne and mentored Bear Bryant. His premature death from smoking at 55 limited his career but he carved a name for Alabama that allowed the Tide to flourish in the post war era.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 7:39 pm to joshnorris14
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But frick CUM.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 7:43 pm to VermilionTiger
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Les Miles has taken what was there when he got to LSU, and exceeded the LSU brand to a national name. We recruit nationally at an elite level now. He has just as many titles as the previous coach, and just as many SEC titles. The wins are also impressive.
Les Miles has won 1 national championship in his past 8 years as a collegiate head coach. Nick Saban has won 4 national championships in his past 8 years as a collegiate coach. Both programs caught breaks/needed help so don't go there. Saban > Miles. Where would LSU be now if Saban had never stopped there? If you're going to put Miles name in the running for greatest coach, then you should be talking about Oklahoma State instead.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 7:45 pm to JustSmokin
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Football has no clear choice. Debate will continue between Saban and Miles until Miles wins another crystal ball or two.
Yes, the debate will continue regarding who was the best coach at LSU, but overall no. I'll take the coach who has won 4 BCS titles in his last 8 seasons as a head coach over the one that has only won one under unusual circumstances, i.e. 2 losses.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 7:59 pm to mattloc
Arkansas - Frank Broyles
Alabama - Paul Bryant
Auburn - Pat Dye
S. Carolina - Steve Spurrier
Florida - Steve Spurrier
LSU - Charlie Mac
Ole Miss - Johnny Vaught
Tennessee - Gen Neyland
Georgia - Vince Dooley
Alabama - Paul Bryant
Auburn - Pat Dye
S. Carolina - Steve Spurrier
Florida - Steve Spurrier
LSU - Charlie Mac
Ole Miss - Johnny Vaught
Tennessee - Gen Neyland
Georgia - Vince Dooley
Posted on 9/20/13 at 8:02 pm to Gardevoir
Frank Broyles is unquestionably the answer for Arkansas, but Hugo Bezdek deserves mention, too. Besides giving Arkansas it's current mascot (we were the Cardinals), after beating LSU in Baton Rouge, Bezdek led Arkansas to an undefeated season in 1909. It included victories over LSU and Oklahoma, and Arkansas outscored opponents 186-18 for the year. The following year, he led Arkansas to a victory over Texas A&M and curb-stomped LSU 51-0.
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 9/20/13 at 8:09 pm to Gardevoir
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under unusual circumstances
Why do u feel the need to bash Miles in this thread and not just post what the OP intended
But I'll play....the last 2 NC's were pretty unusual for Bama
You needed a mulligan (to get LSU again) AND a clutch drive (LSU again)
They aren't as far apart as you want them to be.....dwi
Posted on 9/20/13 at 8:10 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Probably Jackie Sherrill for A&M.
I would say that is perceived as true but it is actually RC Slocum, he was a great defensive coach and horrible on offense. A lot like Miles actually.
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Although Kevin Sumlin could very well be looked back upon with more fondness than any former Aggie coach when it's all said and done.
This is also true and I don't think it would take that many more good seasons sadly.
ETA: Dana X Bible should be in this conversation with his two retroactive MNCs.
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 9/20/13 at 8:11 pm to WG_Dawg
Wally Butts got us a natty, 2 if you want to say that
Posted on 9/20/13 at 8:12 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
I love how people bring up a 2 loss champ. As if EVERYONE frickING ELSE didn't decide to shite the bed the last week of the season.
Further, how a Bama fan can actually talk about "unusual" circumstances is beyond me. Congrats, you won the rematch, but don't sit there and act like Bama wanted to play Utah and claim "uninspired play" and act like LSU "wanted" to play Bama, again.
Weird shite happens in football and "luck" is always involved. Nick Saban is the best damn coach to have ever coached, but god damn the disrespect for the ONLY coach to challenge him is foul.
Further, how a Bama fan can actually talk about "unusual" circumstances is beyond me. Congrats, you won the rematch, but don't sit there and act like Bama wanted to play Utah and claim "uninspired play" and act like LSU "wanted" to play Bama, again.
Weird shite happens in football and "luck" is always involved. Nick Saban is the best damn coach to have ever coached, but god damn the disrespect for the ONLY coach to challenge him is foul.
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 9/20/13 at 8:12 pm to HuggieBear
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Vandy: Dan McGuire (damn good one in the early part of the 20th century)
Thanks for the inclusion (and I agree with your assessment), but his name was Dan McGugin...
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