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re: who has the worst football program in the SEC ?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:59 pm to chili dogs
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:59 pm to chili dogs
Mississippi State and South Carolina are the only two to never get a single selection for a national championship.
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:59 pm to BrerTiger
Hey Brer you never said where you got the numbers for the OM-Vandy series.
We lead 48-38-2 btw, and they won the first 19 meetings.
We lead 48-38-2 btw, and they won the first 19 meetings.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:00 pm to heartbreakTiger
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auburn because they are cheaters
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:00 pm to Hog on the Hill
any answer other than KY exhibits a cluelessness to the 5th power
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:01 pm to snakeelix
Inb4warhawgalude
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:01 pm to snakeelix
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any answer other than KY exhibits a cluelessness to the 5th power
Not when you take entire histories into account, which is basically what the OP asked when he said tradition.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:04 pm to Hog on the Hill
Who dares to summon Ghostface Killah?
Oh. Well, nevermind then.
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Goat face salad
Oh. Well, nevermind then.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:06 pm to OBReb6
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Hey Brer you never said where you got the numbers for the OM-Vandy series.
Damn Wikipedia.
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48-38-2 appears to be the correct answer using the Ole Miss 2013 media guide as a baseline for the record prior to this past season's win by Ole Miss.
ETA: I checked the 2013 Vandy media guide and they have the same series record. Apparently no one has fixed the Wiki yet.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:07 pm to chili dogs
Currently?
Arkansas was 0-8 last year. Can't get any worse.
And Kentucky.
State should be better next year. Tennessee and Florida also.
Arkansas was 0-8 last year. Can't get any worse.
And Kentucky.
State should be better next year. Tennessee and Florida also.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:08 pm to PorkSammich
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Anyone putting Arkansas has only watched football the last 2 years.
We are a couple years removed from a 10 and 11 win season, a bcs bowl, and we've been to Atlanta 3 times.
Find the real bottom feeders trolls.
Oh hell ... I misread the OP's subject line. Didn't see the part about "worst SEC football program pre-2012." My bad.
Just for giggles and grins let's do modern history, go back to when you were still in kindergarten say to the turn of the new millennium.
So, from the year 2000 to present day ...
Arkansas and SCAR have both played 175 games to average having played 12.5 games per season for the past 14 years.
Over that span of time ...
Ark is 99-76 (7.071 per season)
SCAR is 110-65 (7.857 per season)
#nb4arkplaysnwest ... and your boy should have never brought SCAR, Mizzou and Ole Miss into the fricking discussion if you wanted to find the real bottom feeder trolls.
Edited: grammatical error needed correcting
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:09 pm to scrooster
There is absolutely no way to make the case that USCe has a better tradition than Arkansas. You lose.
edit: and if you don't already know this as a given then you just don't know shite about college football.
edit: and if you don't already know this as a given then you just don't know shite about college football.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:10 pm to BrerTiger
Just use cfbdatawarehouse, I haven't encountered any problems yet on that site
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:15 pm to Hog on the Hill
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There is absolutely no way to make the case that USCe has a better tradition than Arkansas. You lose.
Ohhhhh, is that what this thread is about! lulz
You are one dumb little insecure illiterate frick aren't you. (sic)
Go back and re-read the subject line and all of the replies. If you can show where this thread is about the football traditions of Arkansas vs SCAR over the past three centuries ... well, then I'll stop thinking of you as an ignorant insecure illiterate little frick who can neither read nor comprehend the written word.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:16 pm to BigOrangeBri
Depends on how much you want to weigh history or tradition (and academics). Not sure how academics is weighed in a 'football program' anyway. Overall school ranking? Football graduation rate?
I don't see how any games from 1950 or even 1970 have anything to do with current program status. Army and Minnesota used to be national teams, too.
State has an argument for having a better program than Vandy, UK, and OM.
For instance, State has more overall wins than Kentucky over the last 5, last 10, 15, 20, 25, and 30 years (and a lot more than Vandy), plus head-to-head leads over both.
State ahas more head-to-head wins over OM over the last 5, 10, 15, 20, and 25 years. State
has more overall wins than OM over the last 5 and last 10 years, but OM has a little more over the last 15, 20, and 25 years (and a lot more beyond that).
Facilities-wise, State and OM are about the same. Kentucky has a little bigger capacity, but trailed OM in attendance in 2013 and State was a little behind both. However, State has an expansion that will be ready in 2014. I would call State/OM/UK about even in facilities. Vandy trails all 3.
I guess y'all are joking about Arkansas, but Arkansas is way ahead of State/OM/UK/Vandy in winning and facilities.
I don't see how any games from 1950 or even 1970 have anything to do with current program status. Army and Minnesota used to be national teams, too.
State has an argument for having a better program than Vandy, UK, and OM.
For instance, State has more overall wins than Kentucky over the last 5, last 10, 15, 20, 25, and 30 years (and a lot more than Vandy), plus head-to-head leads over both.
State ahas more head-to-head wins over OM over the last 5, 10, 15, 20, and 25 years. State
has more overall wins than OM over the last 5 and last 10 years, but OM has a little more over the last 15, 20, and 25 years (and a lot more beyond that).
Facilities-wise, State and OM are about the same. Kentucky has a little bigger capacity, but trailed OM in attendance in 2013 and State was a little behind both. However, State has an expansion that will be ready in 2014. I would call State/OM/UK about even in facilities. Vandy trails all 3.
I guess y'all are joking about Arkansas, but Arkansas is way ahead of State/OM/UK/Vandy in winning and facilities.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:19 pm to OBReb6
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Just use cfbdatawarehouse, I haven't encountered any problems yet on that site
Stassen is what I usually use but sometimes the wiki grabs my eye first in the search results because I Google everything under the sun out of habit.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:21 pm to Hog on the Hill
Rank WinPct Wins Losses Games Played
21 Arkansas 0.58988 686 471 39 1196
54t South Carolina 0.51460 577 543 44 1164
Argument over. Arkansas is a much better program overall. Over 100 more wins and a much better winpct.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:24 pm to BigOrangeBri
1. Alabama
9. LSU
10. Tennessee
11. Georgia
12. Florida
13. Auburn
20. Texas A&M
23. Arkansas
28. Ole Miss
35. Missouri
40. Vanderbilt
43. Mississippi State
47. Kentucky
61. South Carolina
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9. LSU
10. Tennessee
11. Georgia
12. Florida
13. Auburn
20. Texas A&M
23. Arkansas
28. Ole Miss
35. Missouri
40. Vanderbilt
43. Mississippi State
47. Kentucky
61. South Carolina
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:26 pm to RollDamnTide
That's pretty much spot on
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:26 pm to scrooster
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So, from the year 2000 to present day ...
Cock fan conveniently leaves out 1998 and 1999.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:31 pm to RollDamnTide
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1. Alabama 9. LSU 10. Tennessee 11. Georgia 12. Florida 13. Auburn 20. Texas A&M 23. Arkansas 28. Ole Miss 35. Missouri 40. Vanderbilt 43. Mississippi State 47. Kentucky 61. South Carolina
I think the Op is looking for a little more consideration than that. Unless you're suggesting that princton is the 31st best program in the country.
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