re: Who has a better QB situation: LSU or Alabama?

LSU has three top ten QBs (Jennings, Rettig, and Harris) on the roster.

Only sphJennings has any experience whatsoever. rsfRettig is a solid pocket passer. Not yet sure about his overall arm strength.

tfHarris is the most talented in the group in that he has athleticism like Nick Marshall and has the potential to throw the ball like Jameis Winston. IMO, we are a year away from Harris being a great threat to defenses, but that may happen sooner.

Much like Bamma, we are unsure as to how things are going to turn out.

Can a Bamma fan tell me more about their QB situation? We know Coker is coming in, but what about the others and how you thing things may play out.

Here's some highlights and cut ups of Harris' play in the Spring Game. This is a kid who had hit campus just before Soring Ball and is an Early Enrollee.

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He's been throwing with Cam, then throwing with Malachi Dupre and working with Keenan Allen of the Saints and a few other Saints players in NOLA (Dupre's Dad arranged it; he's a coach on the Staff of the Saints). They sent Jennings, then Harris and Dupre out to the Pacific Coast to work with Whitfield and he's already compared him to a more athletic version of Jameis Winston.

He should be good. Difficult to compare either player with almost no live action in true game situations. But I like LSU's OL, and definitely like our TE's and Running Backs. Couple that with what I think is arguably the best offensive coordinator in collegiate football and I think we will score points and develop our kids very well.

Coker/Simms/Bateman will be the first time that Kiffin hasn't dealt with a very good to great QB talent coming in. He's got league experience and is accepted as a good OC. But how he develops whomever emerges is key.

I trust the combination of talent, coaching, development, and the team surrounding the position at LSU moreso than I do the similar situation at Bama. But I still can't say that one or the other will be better.

That's why they play the games.

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Who has a better QB situation: LSU or Alabama?

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TBD.

Not enough real game data on either Coker or Jennings(?) yet. I may have to give a slight edge to LSU, though, if Coker isn't our starting QB.

I think Les has said that Harris has already edged ahead of Jennings.

If true, and Harris is the guy, I expect Jennings to transfer within a year.

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Blake Sims isn't better than our walk on's, much less harris and jennings you dumbass

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Was this really necessary...? may God bless you.

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I think I like LSU's QB's a little better, but Alabama's overall situation better. Aside from last year, we have a tendency to have an environment for QB's to underperform. I'm not ready to say that's completely finished after 1 year.

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I think it isn't the environment. i think we had a bad run with JJ and JL.

I think at a certain point they both sucked and we had no other options.

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But how he develops whomever emerges is key.

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Kiffin managed to make Crompton look draftable. You have to admit that is really impressive

Another thing that cannot be overstated is the importance of returning experienced skill players. Both White and Cooper have tons of experience and will be able to help out a new quarterback. We have both of our TEs returning which is key in the Kiffin offense. Plus we have a stable of beastly running backs with a lot of experience. I think our quarterback is walking into a far better situation as far as skill players go.

On the other hand, LSU will probably have the better o-line. Granted that o-line got abused in the second half by the weakest Bama DLine since 2007, but more starts should help them to gel.

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I think it isn't the environment. i think we had a bad run with JJ and JL.

I think at a certain point they both sucked and we had no other options.

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Wrong on the first, right on the second. These guys both required QB coaching (as all QBs do). They required a redshirt year and another year for good measure. They required a good offensive line, they required a good run game, they required a good defense.

2008
Perriloux got kicked off which put them into a bind. Hatch was some Harvard transfer who shouldn't have touched D1, and when he went down, Lee had to come in. Coupled with the worst LSU defense in a decade, he had no time to grow and his gunslinger mentality and having to win the game himself, got him in trouble. Then JJ's RS is burned early and he has to finish the year out.

2009
Should have been good to go as JJ looked competent enough. Turned out, the OL and run game the next year is the worst we've had in forever. Totaling just 22 more yards and 2 TDs less than Jeremy Hill did last year from our RBs and WRs that year, offered no help for a kid who should have still been playing backup. Making him almost solely responsible for winning the game on offense.

2010
By this time, both QBs had regressed to the point where it was almost impossible to break their habits, and we had a mess of a year passing. This was the fourth and final year for that shite stain of a QB coach Crowton. He could not develop QBs, they would not get a dedicated QB coach, and his offensive coordinating was stale and not compatible with our QBs nor Miles' philosophy.

2011
We finally get an OC with a somewhat decent track record of QB development, only for him to become ill. We then hand the OC duties over to our OL coach who couldn't even do OL coaching right. We had to patch it up but this stuck for a year too long. What you saw in 2011 was what Bama is accustomed to with Saban. We finally had everything in place. QB manages the game with great talent surrounding him everywhere and the stingiest defense you can build. Special teams was even elite. THAT is a championship level team.

I could go to 2012 and bring in how Mett failed miserably because no QB coaching and Frankenstein OC of Krags Miles and Stud. It was not until Cam came in and taught EVERYBODY on offense, how to perform at a higher level, an NFL level. Even implementing new WR drills.

I listen to interviews of how Harris is just in awe of Cam's teachings. What he shows, how he breaks it down, what drills he uses, etc. Harris and Jennings should have few problems succeeding. Five games until they go on the road against Auburn. Three of those games will be cakewalks, and the other two can be won on run game and defense alone. I mean I saw JJ in only his third start, go all the way up to Washington on a late night, first game of the season, go 11/19 172 yards, 3 TDs, 6 carries 42 yards, and beat a Washington team that was never really in it. We have elite QB coaching, a ridiculously better offensive line, a ridiculously better run game, greater RB talent, greater WR talent (albeit less experience), and a better defense than he had that year. I predict 10 wins again with the chance of the other games being toss ups.

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