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re: Which team will have the best defense in '13?

Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:07 pm to
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Which team will have the best defense in '13?

Kentucky
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Also your 2013 heismen winner!

No
Posted by Ldrake53
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:09 pm to
USC has the number 1 defensive player...Bama has the number 1 defense...
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:11 pm to
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Alabama... Then there's LSU, UF, USC, and even perhaps Vanderbilt in the mix for the next in line. Vandy's defense has been legit the past 2 seasons, and they return most of their starters (only lose 5 I believe with 6 or more starts). LSU loses 9 from '12, UF loses 7 and USC lost 6...


LSU loses 6 starters off their defense, not 9.

Has a lot of experience and talent returning, too.

The biggest myth in the SEC right now is that LSU lost everyone. They return 14 starters overall and 33 of 44 from the 2 deep.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:24 pm to
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LSU loses 6 starters off their defense, not 9.


I listed players LSU lost that according to their official stats started 6 or more games. That is what I consider to be substantial starters when they are deemed good enough to start half a season's worth of games. And I was wrong: LSU loses 8 of those players, not 9:

Minter: 13/13
Reid: 13/13
Simon: 13/13
Logan: 13/12
Montgomery: 13/10
Mingo: 13/10
Downs: 13/10
Edwards: 13/6 (tied for 2nd on team in sacks, 6th in TFL)

Posted by therick711
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:28 pm to
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Minter: 13/13
Reid: 13/13
Simon: 13/13
Logan: 13/12
Montgomery: 13/10
Mingo: 13/10
Downs: 13/10
Edwards: 13/6 (tied for 2nd on team in sacks, 6th in TFL)



The bolded names reflect those players that were not starters and/or did not play significant minutes the year prior to last season. Those guys were pretty good, and they basically came of the bench or did not play the previous season. The conference will just have to see how many more monsters are lurking on LSU's sideline.
This post was edited on 2/25/13 at 1:30 pm
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:29 pm to
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LSU loses 6 starters off their defense, not 9.

Has a lot of experience and talent returning, too.

The biggest myth in the SEC right now is that LSU lost everyone. They return 14 starters overall and 33 of 44 from the 2 deep.


THIS.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30212 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:32 pm to
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The biggest myth in the SEC right now is that LSU lost everyone. They return 14 starters overall and 33 of 44 from the 2 deep.
That's pretty damn strong. There shouldn't be any drop off on production.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:33 pm to
Alabama, again. Best in total defense and scoring defense in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, etc. etc.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:40 pm to
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I'm going to say Florida just to be different and it's also plausible

Very plausible but UF is having the same problem LSU is having, a sputtering O that puts a lot more pressure on the D and skews the stats. Remains to be seen if the Cam hire and Pease hire will solve that.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37611 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:43 pm to
Bama

Although I agree Clowney is the best defensive player in the SEC....or the country for that matter....

Damn I wished Saban could have closed the deal with him
Posted by Tigah32
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:43 pm to
Bama

LSU

Everyone else
Posted by TT9
Global warming
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:49 pm to
What Tigah said.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:52 pm to
Highjack:


You deploying?


/Highjack
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:53 pm to
I would love to know where this came from, someone asked me about it in another thread. I'm not even in the military.
This post was edited on 2/25/13 at 1:54 pm
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:57 pm to
Clowney gonna Clowney
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:57 pm to
Eh, someone said it in a thread. Thanks for your non-service anyway, I guess.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 2:00 pm to
I'll bet $1MM E-dollars that Arkansas won't be first or last...

Bama/Florida are likely candidates
This post was edited on 2/25/13 at 2:01 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24968 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 2:04 pm to
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Answer is easy

The Gamecocks because of this player...


One player does not make a team great.

He is a great player don't get me wrong. USCe will not have the best defense in the SEC because of one player.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 2:10 pm to
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quote:

Minter: 13/13
Reid: 13/13
Simon: 13/13
Logan: 13/12
Montgomery: 13/10
Mingo: 13/10
Downs: 13/10
Edwards: 13/6 (tied for 2nd on team in sacks, 6th in TFL)


The bolded names reflect those players that were not starters and/or did not play significant minutes the year prior to last season. Those guys were pretty good, and they basically came of the bench or did not play the previous season. The conference will just have to see how many more monsters are lurking on LSU's sideline.


Minter is officially shown as starting 11 games in 2011...he was 5th on the team in tackles...you should've bolded Mingo's name before you bolded Minters, as Mingo only started 4 games. Still, he led the team in TFL and was 2nd in sacks...

Downs and Edwards are best examples for the point I think you're trying to make....the other ones seems to have been huge contributors to the defense even when they weren't primary starters. For '13 you can include DT Anthony Johnson in that discussion. Perhaps Ronald Martin and Jalen Collins too. LSU brings back starters Barrow, Mills, and Loston as returnees who have started 6 or more games in '12.

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