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re: Which SEC player taken will be the biggest bust?

Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:13 pm to
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So you just can't recall my opinions and the facts I've brought up a thousand times, or do you really want to argue about them again?




Apparently typing out the list of weaknesses that are so obvious is just too much to ask.


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Funny how your pimping of his combine kinda just... Vanished


You mean I DIDN'T continue to post the same things over and over after Friday?!?!?!

Crazy.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:19 pm to
Did texag7 ever post those cone and shuttle numbers?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:20 pm to
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Did texag7 ever post those cone and shuttle numbers?


I'm guessing not. How much longer are you going to avoid posting your analysis?
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:22 pm to
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Dalvin is a better back than LF especially at the next level. Better vision, quicker, better blocker, and a better pass catcher.


Gonna have to stop you here, brother.

Cook is no where near Fournette's level. 10 out of 10 I'd take Fournette without hesitation. He's just that good. I mean, you can see him bulldozing but he also has plenty of games where he's flat out blazing on people.

Cook played in the ACC, where offense is just so much easier. Cook would not survive on an LSU team.

shite, he's not even second-string on LSU, I'd pick Guice over him 10 out of 10 times.

He just had amazing fortune of being in a conference where defense comes secondary, similarly with Reggie Bush.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:23 pm to
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StrawsDrawnAtRandom


How much of that was just your hatred for FSU though
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:24 pm to
Man you were puffed up after that 40
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:25 pm to
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Gonna have to stop you here, brother.



I read the rest of your post in his voice.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:27 pm to
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JuiceTerry


Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:28 pm to
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How much of that was just your hatred for FSU though


It's not, though. I like FSU and like when they're strong. If your opponents are strong, your win means more and it can excuse an otherwise embarrassing loss should they come (and they have).

However, Cook being better than Fournette when he's not even better than Guice is just a joke. I would take either of those backs with Cook being a distant third.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:32 pm to
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It's not, though. I like FSU and like when they're strong. If your opponents are strong, your win means more and it can excuse an otherwise embarrassing loss should they come (and they have).

However, Cook being better than Fournette when he's not even better than Guice is just a joke. I would take either of those backs with Cook being a distant third.


I'm just messing with you

I don't agree that Cook is in a distant third though. I believe he is going to be a solid back if you put him in the right situation.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:38 pm to
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I'm just messing with you

I don't agree that Cook is in a distant third though. I believe he is going to be a solid back if you put him in the right situation.


Guice is an interesting prospect, but Fournette when healthy is just a monster. The only time he's shut down is when he doesn't have an Oline nor quarterback and he's had that for almost his entire tenure.

Cook has enjoyed, not only the addition of a good offense, but a littany of bad defenses -- not limiting that to Florida who almost always plays 5 to 6 defenders down because we actually have to play a schedule.

Watching the level of competition and the lack of offensive prowess that Fournette had to play with -- if he had gone to a team with a passing threat he would have broken too many records.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:42 pm to
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Cook has enjoyed, not only the addition of a good offense, but a littany of bad defenses -- not limiting that to Florida who almost always plays 5 to 6 defenders down because we actually have to play a schedule.


No doubt that LF and Guice will face better defenses on a consistent basis than Cook did but he did just have a really good game against a top 15 rush defense.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:01 pm to
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No doubt that LF and Guice will face better defenses on a consistent basis than Cook did but he did just have a really good game against a top 15 rush defense.


How do you think he'd with a team without a decent Oline and quarterback?

If you're talking about Florida -- the Florida defense was pretty gutted by the end of the year. This changed when we were permitted to rest and have our newer players woven into the fabric of it before the Outback bowl. We played a linebacker at nickelback against FSU for a few plays.

If you're talking about Michigan -- He had 70 yards the entire game before finally breaking it out in the fourth quarter. Michigan also only played two teams that were ranked. Florida played 4, LSU played 6.

He had a woefully easier schedule against weaker teams with more support than Fournette or Guice.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:05 pm to
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How do you think he'd with a team without a decent Oline and quarterback?


Are we saying the Oline for LSU isn't decent?

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If you're talking about Michigan -- He had 70 yards the entire game before finally breaking it out in the fourth quarter. Michigan also only played two teams that were ranked. Florida played 4, LSU played 6.



I was talking about Michigan and I'm not sure why using racked teams as a way to measure Michigan ability to defend the run is a fair argument. I also hate the logic of "well he only did alright if you look at 3 quaters", there is a reason you play four.

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He had a woefully easier schedule against weaker teams with more support than Fournette or Guice.


I already agreed with you on this....

Look, I don't disagree with you about LF and Guice over Cook. I just stated I didn't think they were that much further ahead of Cook.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 1:08 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:09 pm to
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Look, I don't disagree with you about LF and Guice over Cook. I just stated I didn't think they were that much further ahead of Cook.



Ohh, okay. He's a third just not a distant third. We cool then. :dap:
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:10 pm to
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Ohh, okay. He's a third just not a distant third. We cool then.


I felt like I was starting to argue something I didn't even agree with
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15590 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:10 pm to
I think they all three gon get paid
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:21 pm to
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I felt like I was starting to argue something I didn't even agree with


It's my bad, man, I misread.
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:27 pm to
Fournette and Garrett will both be huge busts.
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