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re: When super expansion starts we’ll be in the SEC:

Posted on 8/3/23 at 5:35 am to
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7406 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 5:35 am to
quote:

When super expansion starts we’ll be in the SEC:
1. Clemson
2. FSU
3. UCF
4. Miam


Good...Vanderbilt has been the conference doormat for ever..awful kind of UCF to step up and offer to help the Dores out a little...
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37657 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:06 am to
Do you really think the SEC would add any more schools from Florida than FSU?

This is about eyeballs. I predict that if the sec adds teams it will be FSU, Clemson, UVA, and UNC. If adding 6 it’s NC St and Ava Tech.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16297 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:46 am to
UCF is just moving from group of to group of conferences. UCF brings nothing to the SEC and doesn’t warrant an SEC offer.
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
6073 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:00 am to
quote:

3. UCF


Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
9435 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:09 am to


Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1447 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:26 am to
quote:

1. Clemson
2. FSU
3. UCF
4. Miami


None of these teams would be top 2, probably, and two of them aren't in the top 5 or 6.
Posted by SCgamecock2988
Columbia, SC
Member since Oct 2015
14089 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:50 am to
Outside of FSU you really could not have picked a worse list of candidates in terms of realistic expectations and what the SEC might want.

Posted by carolinaswamper
unincorporated swamp, johns island,
Member since Jan 2013
3142 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:11 am to
UCF?? are yall the school that beats the drum for a snap count?
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4625 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:18 am to
UCF won't ever be in the SEC.

The reality of expansion for the SEC is that they'll expand whenever doing so means more money for the existing SEC teams.

The SEC will expand if the per team payout increases because of doing so. Otherwise they wont, regardless of what other conferences do.

UCF has value... but not for the SEC. It has value for conferences without a Florida footprint, but the reality is there aren't really any general CFB fans in Florida who watch UCF who don't already watch UF. Adding UCF brings very little chance at increased income for the other SEC teams, so it won't happen.

THe Big 20? It's possible. The Big 12? Already happened. But not the SEC.

I honestly don't think the SEC grows past 16 for a LONG time.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4625 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:45 am to
quote:

This is about eyeballs.


It's not even about eyeballs. It's about dollars.

I don't think the SEC adds FSU even. While FSU might be able to hold their own in terms of eyeballs, I can't see how UGA or UF or Tennessee will get any more money each year from the conference by adding FSU. And if that doesn't happen, they won't expand.

Same is true for Big 10 expansion, but their math is different because they own their own station. Adding teams for them can mean adding more content to the cable channel they own, while it doesn't mean more content for ESPN if the SEC expands (since ESPN pays for FSU/Clemson games already through the ACC, they're taking content from one contract and moving it to another... that they have to pay more for).
Posted by cutigersfan
Member since Jan 2019
584 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:22 pm to
How much more $ did the SEC get from ESPN when they added Oklahoma and texas ?
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30621 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:33 pm to

They won’t call it Super expansion when UCF gets added. They will call it desperation.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4625 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

How much more $ did the SEC get from ESPN when they added Oklahoma and texas ?


The contract was set up so that adding approved teams increased ESPN's payout to make the amount per team stay the same.

The SEC wanted to add more conference games by going to a 9 game schedule and increase the payout more. ESPN said no, so we have 8 game schedules still.

Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6644 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

SadUCFKnight


Posted by Guess
Down The Road
Member since Jun 2009
3781 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:48 pm to
I'm one of the up votes simply for the hilarity that I know I will read further down
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

1. Clemson
2. FSU
3. UCF
4. Miami




One of these things is not like the others
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19149 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

FSU 3. UCF 4. Miami


4 teams in Florida would be TV revenue suicide…
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