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What's More Important?

Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:27 am
Posted by sewaneerebel
Oxford, Ms
Member since Sep 2014
697 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:27 am
Public health or football? The country hasn't seen such a health crisis since the polio pandemic; and before that the Spanish Flu. Is it safe to conduct team sports before large crowds? No.

Without a vaccine, the health of the entire country is at risk. Football rivalries need to take a back seat for the good of everyone. A season off won't kill us. But the virus will. And frankly, college football, particularly, is just completely out of hand with coaches' salaries in the stratosphere.

You can gripe all you want, but we need to get our priorities straight in this country, and playing football at all levels is just not one of them.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 9:29 am
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33095 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:28 am to
Football. NEXT!
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24517 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:28 am to
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Public health or football?



Public health.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:34 am to
Hold on

I thought all you Red State guys believed the junk science that the Bunker Bitch was spewing, that this CV19 thing is no big deal, and it'll disappear when the Weather gets warm?

We should be full speed ahead with all Sports according to the Bunker Bitch, don't act like the Pandemic is real now
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
23130 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:35 am to
quote:

What's More Important?

Public health or football?

This is a straw man argument.
Posted by That LSU Guy
The beach
Member since Jul 2008
11418 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:36 am to
quote:

And frankly, college football, particularly, is just completely out of hand with coaches' salaries in the stratosphere.


So?
Posted by sewaneerebel
Oxford, Ms
Member since Sep 2014
697 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:37 am to
PeeJayScammer: Not everyone in a red state voted red. Not everyone in a red state would have been caught dead in Tulsa. (Which could happen to some that were.) I have always taken the pandemic seriously from day one.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21308 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:41 am to
Public health is more important. That doesn't mean football or other sports can't be played with low risk, whether it be limited or with limited crowds.
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
6916 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:42 am to
Freedom of choice
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30232 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:51 am to
quote:

And frankly, college football, particularly, is just completely out of hand with coaches' salaries in the stratosphere.

And?

What does a health crisis have to do with coaches' salaries?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90625 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:54 am to
Shut up Karen
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90625 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:56 am to
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Freedom of choice


This. No reason not to have the event when the players aren’t at risk due to Covid not harming young healthy people.

The crowds know the risks and are free not to attend if they’re worried
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13165 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:03 am to
quote:

The country hasn't seen such a health crisis since the polio pandemic; and before that the Spanish Flu.


This is a false statement. The average age of those dying from Covid-19 is about 80. The normal death rate of half of that age range is higher than the death rate of the virus. Only 26 school age children have died from Covid-19 to date. Meanwhile over 1800 children died from Swine Flu (H1V1) in 2019 and there were no school or business closings. The average age of those who died from Swine Flu was 40 so thousands of healthy working age people were affected.
Translation: the response to Covid-19 has been largely politically motivated. Healthy young adults and children are at no more risk from Covid-19 that from season influenza.
Posted by sewaneerebel
Oxford, Ms
Member since Sep 2014
697 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:29 am to
What you don't seem to understand is that asymptomatic people who are younger and healthier can spread the virus to those in higher risk categories. It only takes one spreader to infect other populations. That so-called crowd in Tulsa is a perfect example: no social distancing, crowded into a space without masks; and then they go home to possibly infect family members or friends or even strangers in higher risk categories.

As for the salaries of college coaches: my point is that universities are supposed to exist to prepare people for life with their degrees. Football was not the reason they were founded in the first place. We have created a monster where everything revolves around paying coaches and not worrying about regular professors and students, a very, very small percentage of whom are there to play football.

It is what it is. The pandemic is not a hoax, and cases and deaths continue to spiral. We need to take a step back and assess our priorities. Football as the religion it has become is not one of them when lives are at stake.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18224 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:34 am to
I think you're overlooking the number of deaths and injuries that will occur across the south if there is no football. If a Georgia fan can't taunt a Gator whats the point in living? If Bubba can't take out his aggression on a referee living in his magic moving picture box then he or she is gonna take it out on his family or his neighbors. Football saves lives.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:34 am to
Look if 1,000 people have to die for me to see the Gators...I'll pull the trigger myself.

Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:47 am to
You're providing an Apples to Flying-Fish comparison.

Football is an event, public health is a target or an objective. The only thing they have in common is: we value them but have no consensus on how either it is supposed to turn out successfully.

It's ethically questionable and logically retarded to try to compare and contrast such diverse things. You should restate your query to demand a differential between 2 actually comparable types (ideally ones with common units of measures). In other words, modify both operands to get'm closer a common type.

TL;DR: Until the options you plan to present for choice have a common denominator (which is related to the evaluation you're specifying), you're not really asking a real question.
Posted by sewaneerebel
Oxford, Ms
Member since Sep 2014
697 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:59 am to
Okay. Try this: Will college football be allowed to: 1) take place at all; 2) take place with no fans in the stands; 3)take place with limited fans in the stands; 4)take place as usual?

Then: what is in the best interest of public health until we have a vaccine? Masking? Social distancing? Hand-washing; Quarantining?

Finally: is playing football at any level compatible with the scientific recommendations for the pandemic? Can they be safely ignored?
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 11:01 am
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18142 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:23 am to
You're an idiot if you think that a virus with a 99.6% survival rate demands the overreaction that happened.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18142 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:24 am to
The absolute best interest for public health is to get out and get your immune system ready and live the life worth living instead of the constant fear propagated by media and politicians.
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