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Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:59 pm to theRealJesseD
Also, Williams went down in the second quarter of the National Championship game against UGA. Not sure what he is talking about there.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:02 pm to stephendomalley
Generally 2. Most playoff round 2 are mismatches
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:10 pm to theRealJesseD
I am continuously curious as to why so many supposed CFB fans are against watching more meaningful games than what the bowls have become. Sure, at this time there is probably a wide gulf between #1 and #12, but if more teams can get in with a chance to play for title, then I do think some parity will follow.
Not to mention, it might just might allow the insanity that is coaching expectations to settle down a bit and we might just see what can happen when coaching staffs get more than a one year grace period and programs can benefit from continuity. It would make those habitually above average programs but not top echelon programs more stable, and more likely to come up with a stellar year on occasion.
Also, I think people keep bitching about blow outs. I think the majority of games will be pretty good. Sure there might be a program head and shoulders above the rest some years, but it is unlikely every year, and well injuries and shite happens. However, regardless of how the season turns out, whether you are a champion or a chump, everyone still has to start over the next season, so yeah I would rather watch fun football more than just have the same few teams get too much benefit of the doubt because of name recognition.
The only big issue I see is the portal timeline with new semesters, but here is where the playoffs might really be a benefit as I think you will see far fewer players immediately decide to jump just because they can and put more thought into sticking with a program for at least two-three years unless they really do have a major issue other than just doing it because they can.
Not to mention, it might just might allow the insanity that is coaching expectations to settle down a bit and we might just see what can happen when coaching staffs get more than a one year grace period and programs can benefit from continuity. It would make those habitually above average programs but not top echelon programs more stable, and more likely to come up with a stellar year on occasion.
Also, I think people keep bitching about blow outs. I think the majority of games will be pretty good. Sure there might be a program head and shoulders above the rest some years, but it is unlikely every year, and well injuries and shite happens. However, regardless of how the season turns out, whether you are a champion or a chump, everyone still has to start over the next season, so yeah I would rather watch fun football more than just have the same few teams get too much benefit of the doubt because of name recognition.
The only big issue I see is the portal timeline with new semesters, but here is where the playoffs might really be a benefit as I think you will see far fewer players immediately decide to jump just because they can and put more thought into sticking with a program for at least two-three years unless they really do have a major issue other than just doing it because they can.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 2:57 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I googled this and read some articles about it. Interesting. Not going to lie, kind of put a bug in my brain as I was watching that game last night
I still don't buy into a grand conspiracy though. NFL players compete in a game to win. Its a sport. Questionable calls don't really change that. There are at least as many questionable calls in cfb. There would have to be so many people involved, hard to believe that no one would blow the whistle at this point.
Yeah, I don't think it's outright fixed like the WWE. You still have to have players making plays, and many of the things that happen can't really be scripted.
And it's really impossible to say if something was an honest mistake, or if it was done on purpose.
But they could and it would be 100% legal.
I think mostly what happens is certain things get "help" at times. Things that would cause hype, things people want to see, etc. The teams still have to be good, and they still have to make plays. Derrick Henry is really out there bullying people and making plays. They are usually actually trying to tackle him. Josh Jacbos is out there making plays etc. That's all real.
But I think if the NFL can inject things that will cause hype, or cause people to talk and promote the league etc, they will. It will always be minor things. It's not 100% fixed, but it's not 100% unbiased either.
So would the NFL help a team make a crazy comeback? I think yes. Did it really happen? We'll never know.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 12/9/22 at 5:01 pm to 3down10
I would rather see teams 5-12 play each other in the lst round than to see them play teams that should be exhibiton games. For instance:
1. Alabama vs Washington no Austin Peay or Portland State
2. Tennessee vs Penn State no U.T. Martin or Ohio
3. Clemson vs USC no Furman or Rice
4. Utah vs Kansas State. no Southern Utah or South Dakota
1. Alabama vs Washington no Austin Peay or Portland State
2. Tennessee vs Penn State no U.T. Martin or Ohio
3. Clemson vs USC no Furman or Rice
4. Utah vs Kansas State. no Southern Utah or South Dakota
Posted on 12/9/22 at 5:33 pm to stephendomalley
UT was shown up by UGA long before they lost their QB
Posted on 12/9/22 at 6:33 pm to stephendomalley
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every year there are 2 or 3 teams head and shoulders above the rest, and the 4th team might deserve to be there, but no one gives them a chance - like TCU this year.
#4 has won it all as often as #1.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:19 pm to stephendomalley
It's being expanded primarily for HUGE TV revenue.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:26 pm to stephendomalley
You really want to know?
Money makes the world go around
The world go around
The world go around
Money makes the world go around
It makes the world go 'round.
A mark, a yen, a buck, or a pound
A buck or a pound
A buck or a pound
Is all that makes the world go around,
That clinking clanking sound
Can make the world go 'round.
(Kander/Ebb from “Cabaret”)
Money makes the world go around
The world go around
The world go around
Money makes the world go around
It makes the world go 'round.
A mark, a yen, a buck, or a pound
A buck or a pound
A buck or a pound
Is all that makes the world go around,
That clinking clanking sound
Can make the world go 'round.
(Kander/Ebb from “Cabaret”)
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:33 pm to TidalSurge1
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It's being expanded primarily for HUGE TV revenue.
That, and the fact the playoffs have made the bowls irrelevant.
The BCS did too for that matter.
No more guessing by sports media for championships. No more split champs, unless you’re some wannabe ucf fan.
It is what it is and shall be, Etc…….
Posted on 12/9/22 at 9:29 pm to Topwater Trout
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Every other sport, including all other levels of CFB, allow more teams into the playoffs as a percentage than D-1 CFB...I never hear much complaining about their playoff system
Say you are deaf without saying you are deaf. Playoffs are a huge farce.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 9:31 pm to Funky Tide 8
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so you think that the NFL playoff system is totally stupid?
Without a single doubt.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 10:06 pm to Topwater Trout
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and 14 will make the playoff D1 cfb has 131 teams? 12 will make the playoffs
Talent differential. It is much harder for any select NFL team to make the playoffs as it is for say Bama to be in the Top 12 at the end of the season.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 7:01 am to WG_Dawg
I'm impressed with how haughty UGU fans have become in such a short period of time. Wasn't that long ago you know.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 8:07 am to WG_Dawg
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how so? Why should a team that's undefeated and a team that has 3 or potentailly even 4 (in a 12 team playoff it may happen) losses both have the same chance to win a national title in a winner take all playoff? If you lose 3 games in a 12 game season, I'm sorry but frick off. You've lost your chance.
Morons gonna moron….
What if the 10th ranked team had two (not all 10th ranked teams have three losses you closed-minded loser) early season close losses to top 5 teams?
We currently have NIL and a vastly expanded transfer portal, but it is an expanded CFP that will destroy college football.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 8:13 am to WG_Dawg
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If after 13 weeks you're only ranked 10th, you've very clearly lost your chance to deserve a title shot.
Even if you haven't lost?
Posted on 12/10/22 at 8:32 am to WG_Dawg
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If after 13 weeks you're only ranked 10th, you've very clearly lost your chance to deserve a title shot.
I dunno. I can see a scenario where a team had a OOC loss or 2 early in the early season to highly ranked teams. Then that team "gels" and makes a run thru there conference schedule and wins their conference championship game. I'd be ok letting them in.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 8:35 am
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:18 am to Topwater Trout
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how did cfb fans become so brainwashed that playoffs are bad? In my life the only complaints I've ever heard when it came to playoffs is the way CFB determined a champion...because every other sport had a true playoff system, yes even every level except DA cfb. Do yall not get excited about playoffs in other sports? Hate March madness, NFL, College World series, etc
Truth is the CFP didn’t kill the bowl season, the BCS did. We just didn’t see it at the time. Before the BCS, nearly all the major Jan1 bowls would have had a part in determining the National Champion. It’s been a downhill slide for bowls since.
The plus 1 model gave us 3 meaningful post season games. The new model will give us 7. Yeah there are probably 1-3 teams any given year that are above the others, I get it. But if it we had 12 this year, the top 4 get a bye so no detriment to them. The first round would have been fantastic with the matchups.
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