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re: Were the annual AL/AU games played in Birmingham considered neutral
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:37 pm to I-59 Tiger
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:37 pm to I-59 Tiger
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Auburn seems to forget they played Tennessee there until 1980 sans 1974, Georgia Tech until 1970 and other non-confernce games until the mid 70's.
The fly in the ointment was some individuals or groups were able to purchase what were known as "stadium certificates" sort of like the PSL in the NFL now where they could purchase tickets to any event at Legion Field. As it turned out a lot of those people (in most years) were for Alabama. Other than that the tickets were split. Even with the stadium certificates that amount was negligible maybe 2-3,000 out of 72,000 seats through 1977 and then 78,000 through the last "split" in 1987.
I went to 3 with the 'split' 1979,1981 and 1987. For the life of me I don't recall anyone thinking "wow,this really is an Alabama home game!" In fact, I would venture to say the Auburn people got hold of the "stadium certificates" in 1987 as it seemed like they had more fans.
Yes it was such a neutral field Alabama tried its best to stop it being split to a true home and home series. The city was heavily populated with Alabama fans and it didn't hide it, the Auburn team would come in and have to deal with shop owners and the like rooting for Alabama. It was not anywhere near a neutral ground for either group. While it wasn't a home game for Alabama was a nicer ground with Alabama fans being more common at the game than Auburn as mentioned for a variety of reasons.
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Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:38 pm to beatbammer
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The last non-Iron Bowl game AU played at Legion Field was against Tennessee in 1978.
Wow, so in the entire rivalry, you say that Alabama had an unfair advantage in 5 of those. That's how many games WOULD have been in Auburn had the series went to a home/home after your last regular season home game in Birmingham in 1978.
That would have put yall starting in Auburn in 1979, which coincidentally also puts you on course for that actual first home game in Auburn in 1989. So let's go back and see how the series COULD have been affected had those years been played in Auburn.
1979 - Lets face it, you were NOT winning this game. Alabama led the SEC in rushing offense, total offense, rushing defense, pass defense and total defense that year.
1981 - Bama wins, lets say you won that one in Auburn. Thats +1
1983 - Auburn wins. No change in record.
1985 - Bama wins a close one. For argument's sake I'll give you this one at home. Thats +2
1987 - Auburn wins. No change.
Auburn lost 3 of those 5 games and I just gave you 2 of those back as wins. You're welcome. (I take thank you's in the form of felatio and Prime Rib btw)
2 games over the course of an entire 75 game series.
Wow Auburn. I really see where you have a lot to bitch about.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:38 pm to allin2010
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Well the game was played in Ttown, so why would they not count?
Easy Lil' Sis, I was just explaining the number...
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:38 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Some of you guys act like a 60-40 split was some sort of Bama conspiracy with Birmingham officals. You guys crack me up. The reality is that during many years, Auburn fans just haven't wanted the tickets. Case in point: In 2009 I, an Alabama graduate and Tide Pride member, bought 4 Auburn season tickets in JHS. No donation to the athletic department, and no waiting list. Ordered them right off the website. Very funny that even after getting the Iron Bowl moved to Jordan-Hare, Auburn can't sell out their season ticket base without Alabama fans buying some of them.
The last sentence made you lose any credibility for anything else you said or say on this subject.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:40 pm to ThaKaptin
Again, bottom line is all you have to do is look at the actions of each university and ignore the other noise.
This post was edited on 10/20/11 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:42 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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The last sentence made you lose any credibility for anything else you said or say on this subject.
He does have a point though. Auburn did have tickets and season tickets for sale on their website...it was widely mocked here.
In 1993, Auburn was advertising season ticket packages (with no donation) in the sports section of the Birmingham News...then they went out and were undefeated.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:42 pm to thatguy1892
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Ding ding ding we have a winner! It was actually only the second time AU beat a Bama team in BDS that end the season with 10 wins. The first was the 2002 team. Which was the start of the probation sqads.
Well OF COURSE Auburn never beats Bama unless they are "down" and Bama always beats Auburn at its best.
Goes without saying.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:45 pm to beatbammer
The OP made it sound like auburn was beating bama because they started playing on campus, which is false.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:45 pm to thatguy1892
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I think 2010 was the first year auburn beat a decent bama team in Tuscaloosa
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Ding ding ding we have a winner! It was actually only the second time AU beat a Bama team in BDS that end the season with 10 wins. The first was the 2002 team. Which was the start of the probation sqads.
That's one more quality Alabama team Auburn beat than any quality team Auburn beat there. You guys kill me with this quality qualifier. Any year Alabama loses the Iron Bowl, it wasn't a quality team.
You've only beaten Auburn in Tuscaloosa once ever (2008), and that was by no exaggeration the worst Auburn team this millenium.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:47 pm to BamaGradinTn
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What was the first Auburn game you attended at Legion Field?
September 1976 vs. Tennessee
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:47 pm to Indiana Tiger
Legion Field was never neutral. Bammers (and some of us Auburn folks too) always wonder why Pat Dye has been allowed to hang around the program? Getting us out of that craptacular Legion Field match up is one of the main reasons. On a good day, Birmingham fandom is about 70/30 Bama/Auburn.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:50 pm to bigpapamac
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50/50 ticket split
One of the most awesome memories I had as a kid was seeing Legion Field split down the middle Crimson and Blue/Orange. Then right before kickoff they released hundreds of crimson, white, blue and orange balloons. Pure awesomeness.
And I think the 50/50 split ended after auburn decided to move their home game to auburn. The last 4 or 5 Iron Bowls played there were typical home/away splits.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:52 pm to ThaKaptin
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Wow, so in the entire rivalry, you say that Alabama had an unfair advantage in 5 of those. That's how many games WOULD have been in Auburn had the series went to a home/home after your last regular season home game in Birmingham in 1978.
Out of all the talking Auburn fans have done in this thread, you guys still refuse to hear.
The very town of Birmingham, from its foundational earth to its highest sky, REEKED of the Crimson Tide. It was and is a part of the soul of the town itself.
And ANY game played in that town was by definition NEVER a true home game.
And, if played against the Crimson Tide, NEVER neutral.
Ya'll knew it then... ya'll know it now.
Which is why ya'll fought tooth and nail to keep it.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:52 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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The last sentence made you lose any credibility for anything else you said or say on this subject.
No it really doesnt. In fact, it lends credibility to the theory that part of the reason there may have been more Alabama fans at the Legion Field games is because there were Auburn seats available to Alabama fans.
Nice try at trying to bury a valid point against your argument though. You Barners have always been the masters of deflection.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:54 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Were the annual AL/AU games played in Birmingham considered neutral
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Some of you guys act like a 60-40 split was some sort of Bama conspiracy with Birmingham officals. You guys crack me up. The reality is that during many years, Auburn fans just haven't wanted the tickets. Case in point: In 2009 I, an Alabama graduate and Tide Pride member, bought 4 Auburn season tickets in JHS. No donation to the athletic department, and no waiting list. Ordered them right off the website. Very funny that even after getting the Iron Bowl moved to Jordan-Hare, Auburn can't sell out their season ticket base without Alabama fans buying some of them.
The last sentence made you lose any credibility for anything else you said or say on this subject.
You're clueless. My last sentence was 100% fact. In 2009, with all of your euphoria over your new head coach and his genius offensive coordinator, I, a Bama grad and Tide Pride member, bought 4 Auburn season tickets right off the Auburn website with no donation required and no waiting list. Your dismissal of that, saying it makes me "lose credibility" is just your feeble attempt at saving face for your fan base. What I said is indisputable fact. Here's the confirmation page from the Auburn-La-Tech tickets I sold on Stub Hub:
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This post was edited on 10/20/11 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:55 pm to allin2010
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Well the game was played in Ttown, so why would they not count? 1895 and 1901, I believe.
The count in Auburn And Tuscaloosa is 14-4, which should tell everyone why Auburn wanted the games out of Bham. We we're right and Bama fans agree, now some Bammers will never agree.
You are still refusing to count our Birmingham games post 1989 as home games in your numbers.
Those numbers are a fricking joke. Of course you are going to have a skewed as hell lead in the numbers when you played so many more games in Auburn than we played in Tuscaloosa.
You are fricking pathetic.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:55 pm to piggidyphish
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Was it. I thought that the "home team" got a bigger cut.
Nope....50/50.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:57 pm to beatbammer
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The very town of Birmingham, from its foundational earth to its highest sky, REEKED of the Crimson Tide. It was and is a part of the soul of the town itself.
And ANY game played in that town was by definition NEVER a true home game.
And, if played against the Crimson Tide, NEVER neutral.
You have lost all sense of rationality on this subject.
The entire STATE is dominated by Alabama fans. Should Auburn play all of their home games in Georgia to get away from that? What matters is what the population HOLDING tickets was. Those are the only ones in the stadium making noise...all the "shop owners" in town can't make a difference in that.
Give a 50/50 ticket split, and I'll play the damn game in Baghdad.
This post was edited on 10/20/11 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:57 pm to beatbammer
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Out of all the talking Auburn fans have done in this thread, you guys still refuse to hear.
The very town of Birmingham, from its foundational earth to its highest sky, REEKED of the Crimson Tide. It was and is a part of the soul of the town itself.
And ANY game played in that town was by definition NEVER a true home game.
And, if played against the Crimson Tide, NEVER neutral.
This post REEKED of orange and blue glasses.
The point you are completely missing is that the entire fricking state was heavily slanted to Alabama. There were nearly twice as many Alabama fans in the state as there were Auburn fans. Not our fault only the misfits wanted to wear that ugly orange and blue.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:58 pm to DvlsAdvocat
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The entire STATE is dominated by Alabama fans.
Auburn, Alabama and Lee County most definitely are not.
Where does Auburn play its home games again?
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