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re: Week 3 match up--------- LSU vs Ms St
Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:00 pm to MButterfly
Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:00 pm to MButterfly
LSU beat MS State 17 of the last 18 games. So yeah, I feel pretty confident
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Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:16 pm to JayDeerTay84
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They will get after your QB. If you are allowing lesser talent, then you should expect MSU to do a bit more.
We have given up 2 sacks. WTF are you smoking? BYU has a better D than anything MSU has faced.
The question is what are you smoking. This is the second time you have totally been off topic of what being said.
What does BYU having a better defense than anything MSU has faced have to do with MSU's defense? Defenses do not face defenses.....
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OK, well you are facing a top 5 pick in Key. SO whatever. Use your thoughts. See how well that plays out Saturday. We have one of the best secondary's in the league.
No.
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And he averaged over 6.8 yards this last game. Your point? BYU has a better D than Anything MSU has faced. I mean, while we are stating facts.
And again... Defenses do not face defenses. BUT PROPS on wanting to get rid of the game that brings his average down.
But I feel the need to point out that your stats do not add up..... unless his average was way down vs a slightly better defense than the FCS team you played. Let me look....
Well yeah.... I see it now. Only 4.5 per carry against a defense that is ranked 58th and ranked 95th in rush defense....
That's your big AH HA! moment? Remove the game he got less in to a horribly ranked FBS team? And some how in your mind that translates into great?
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What makes him no longer proven exactly?
No, it makes your offense, as a whole, not as good as last year in the run game.
This isn't that hard to understand.
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LOL so Fitz is better than Jackson? Really guy? Really?
Yes. It's the system. He is more effective in it.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:22 pm to MButterfly
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The question is what are you smoking. This is the second time you have totally been off topic of what being said.
What does BYU having a better defense than anything MSU has faced have to do with MSU's defense? Defenses do not face defenses.....
Are you this fricking dumb? You MADE A POINT about LSU taking "2" sacks. Well, BYU has a better D than ANYTHING MSU has faced this year. Regardless 2 sacks is not that big of a deal considering we are running a different scheme.
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OK, well you are facing a top 5 pick in Key. SO whatever. Use your thoughts. See how well that plays out Saturday. We have one of the best secondary's in the league.
No.
Yea, well you are for sure just trolling then.
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And again... Defenses do not face defenses. BUT PROPS on wanting to get rid of the game that brings his average down.
But I feel the need to point out that your stats do not add up..... unless his average was way down vs a slightly better defense than the FCS team you played. Let me look....
Well yeah.... I see it now. Only 4.5 per carry against a defense that is ranked 58th and ranked 95th in rush defense....
That's your big AH HA! moment? Remove the game he got less in to a horribly ranked FBS team? And some how in your mind that translates into great?
IF you dont think Guice is great then fine. I dont give two shits. Maximum retardation over here.
Guice was hurt before the season started. You will see final form Saturday mutt.
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No, it makes your offense, as a whole, not as good as last year in the run game.
This isn't that hard to understand.
Right, because you just want to ignore the efficiency now right? lol. Your warped logic is all over the place.
SO what exactly make our "offense as a whole" worse than last year based on Guice not having 7 yards per carry?
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Yes. It's the system. He is more effective in it.
You can stop talking, we all know you are just trolling. Fitz is NOT better than Jackson at anything.
This post was edited on 9/10/17 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:27 pm to JayDeerTay84
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But he is no longer proven yet your QB is right?
STFU troll.
You are having a hard time comprehending. You are saying the "NFL does period" as an answer to "Who is allowing sacks and less yards per carry to non elite talent at sub par schools."...
Now you are saying I have stated he isn't proven when CLEARLY I stated HE was, but HE isn't what makes the runs possible. I even explained that to the extreme saying "Let him RUN without blocks being thrown for him" which pointed out your OL.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:28 pm to MButterfly
I am worried about LSU OL
How is MSU DL?
How is MSU DL?
Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:32 pm to MButterfly
Mississippi State usually has a pretty good out of conference record. In conference not so much. They also most of the time but not always give LSU a pretty good game, but almost always lose. 38 - 14 LSU.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:35 pm to MButterfly
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You are having a hard time comprehending. You are saying the "NFL does period" as an answer to "Who is allowing sacks and less yards per carry to non elite talent at sub par schools."...
NO I said we have Elite talent. We do. I never said we haven't missed a few blocks in a new scheme this year.
You are just trying to find a "got-ya" moment.
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Now you are saying I have stated he isn't proven when CLEARLY I stated HE was, but HE isn't what makes the runs possible. I even explained that to the extreme saying "Let him RUN without blocks being thrown for him" which pointed out your OL.
What are you rambling about now?
Let me recap what YOU said...
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Guice is a PROVEN SEC back. Use whatever numbers you want to make you feel better.
True.... but the last time I viewed a game, a RB production was contingent on more than just his ability. Direct snap to him and tell the center to not block and I assure you it will be PROVEN he can't run.
Using your logic, he should still be averaging 7.8 yards per carry. He's not. So he is no longer as PROVEN?
I said Guice was a proven SEC back. He is. The BYU game nor last nights game have anything to do with what Guice has shown on the field vs the SEC.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:36 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Are you this fricking dumb? You MADE A POINT about LSU taking "2" sacks. Well, BYU has a better D than ANYTHING MSU has faced this year. Regardless 2 sacks is not that big of a deal considering we are running a different scheme.
BYU is nowhere near the DEFENSE MSU has. You are talking night and day differences and anybody being objective will say that.
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Yea, well you are for sure just trolling then.
Why, because I don't think your secondary is off the chart great? LMAO!
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IF you dont think Guice is great then fine. I dont give two shits. Maximum retardation over here.
Guice was hurt before the season started. You will see final form Saturday mutt.
LOL! One more time Jay... It's not about GUICE. It's about his numbers being down. There is a reason for that. It's either Guice or the OL.
THAT is the point.
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Right, because you just want to ignore the efficiency now right? lol
No... because the numbers show it against lesser talent than LSU will face at MSU.
MSU is ranked 20th in total offense... LSU 47th.
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SO what exactly make our "offense as a whole" worse than last year based on Guice not having 7 yards per carry?
YES.. we are talking rushing attack. When those numbers go down, then OBVIOUSLY you are not as good at that as you were.
It's not rocket science.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:38 pm to thelawnwranglers
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I am worried about LSU OL
How is MSU DL?
Still early to tell, but the front 7 will be the best you have faced to date.
They are faster and bigger and the DC is a hell of a game planner.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:42 pm to JayDeerTay84
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NO I said we have Elite talent. We do. I never said we haven't missed a few blocks in a new scheme this year.
I quoted you word for F'n word....
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Guice is a PROVEN SEC back. Use whatever numbers you want to make you feel better.
True.... but the last time I viewed a game, a RB production was contingent on more than just his ability. Direct snap to him and tell the center to not block and I assure you it will be PROVEN he can't run.
Using your logic, he should still be averaging 7.8 yards per carry. He's not. So he is no longer as PROVEN?
I said Guice was a proven SEC back. He is. The BYU game nor last nights game have anything to do with what Guice has shown on the field vs the SEC.
Thank you for quoting where I AGREED... thus the word TRUE and hen following it up with my question. Now just try answering the damn question.
Why are his numbers down 3 yards per carry vs weak defenses?
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The BYU game nor last nights game have anything to do with what Guice has shown on the field vs the SEC.
WHAT??????
Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:43 pm to MButterfly
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BYU is nowhere near the DEFENSE MSU has. You are talking night and day differences and anybody being objective will say that.
Again idiot, you are saying "but LSU gave up 2 sacks". Well, BYU is an FBS school and has a better D than the two teams MSU played.
No one, and I mean no one thinks BYU has the same type and skill on D MSU has, but since you like to bring up last year, BYU had a top 10 D. They aren't scrubs.
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LOL! One more time Jay... It's not about GUICE. It's about his numbers being down. There is a reason for that. It's either Guice or the OL.
THAT is the point.
And the point is that we are no longer relying on power I. What in the holy hell are you missing?
Its two games in and this last game he played half the damn game.
By your same logic Guice had 1.5 ypc vs Wisconsin. Then went on to lead the SEC in rushing.
We have a new OC running a new scheme. Missed a few blocks. Its not like our Oline got ran over.
Further, are you going to sit there and tell me MSU's Oline has been perfect? You know damn good and well you guys missed blocks too. It just so happened you played weaker teams.
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No... because the numbers show it against lesser talent than LSU will face at MSU.
MSU is ranked 20th in total offense... LSU 47th.
As I have said, the "numbers" also show LSU has a better passing offense than MSU and is more efficient.
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YES.. we are talking rushing attack. When those numbers go down, then OBVIOUSLY you are not as good at that as you were.
It's not rocket science.
But they haven't gone down for the team... You are talking about 1 player in 1 game. Not the team... Both our Rushing and passing averages per game are ahead of where we were last year.
Anymore useless points you want to make?
Remember, you said "Its not about Guice"
This post was edited on 9/10/17 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:50 pm to MButterfly
Lol LSU will grind MSST arse off and make them quit like a bunch of school girls
Posted on 9/10/17 at 2:16 pm to JayDeerTay84
Man, you have been owned in this thread. You been given links that show you are wrong.
Here is another... byu is not a way better defense than La Tech. The teams played are very comparable. Do you need a link for that?
For some reason, you think total yards improve ypc. They do not.
Here is another... byu is not a way better defense than La Tech. The teams played are very comparable. Do you need a link for that?
For some reason, you think total yards improve ypc. They do not.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 2:26 pm to Jjdoc
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Man, you have been owned in this thread. You been given links that show you are wrong.
Here is another... byu is not a way better defense than La Tech. The teams played are very comparable. Do you need a link for that?
For some reason, you think total yards improve ypc. They do not.
What Links show I am wrong? BYU does in-fact have a better rushing D than La Tech which this fool has been arguing about all day. That our running game and Guice are not as good. BYU gives up 3.8 ypc to La Techs 6.3.
I await your response.
You said it yourself, the teams play are comparable. SO why the large YPC discrepancy if you think their D's are the same?
This post was edited on 9/10/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 9/10/17 at 2:56 pm to MButterfly
Idk y'all let La Tech average 3 yards a carry including a fricking -87 fumble.
3 different players averaged over 6.
And that was La Tech.
3 different players averaged over 6.
And that was La Tech.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 2:57 pm to JayDeerTay84
i'm having a hard time believing that there are people who think state's offense will score more on aranda and co than canada will score on state's d. on paper, that's ridiculous.
and jackson is wayyyyy better than fitz. not even close.
and jackson is wayyyyy better than fitz. not even close.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:07 pm to MButterfly
LSU hasn't even played it's starting defense yet.
This is the only statement of any real worth you've made.
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These are that stats (not that they mean much at this point):
This is the only statement of any real worth you've made.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:08 pm to MButterfly
This is a lose, lose situation for us. We win, we were expected tok, we lose, we suck.
I am pretty sure we are light years better on Offense than last year and if we get Lawrence and Key back this week, State will be in trouble
I am pretty sure we are light years better on Offense than last year and if we get Lawrence and Key back this week, State will be in trouble
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:10 pm to JCinBAMA
Never go full gump.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:14 pm to JCinBAMA
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State will put up 50 points on that cupcake Defense.
Have an upvote, that's funny stuff right there!
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