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re: WDE24's Top 5 SEC RB's Week 7

Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:10 am to
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:10 am to
CAP is the most overrated RB on this list.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:11 am to
How much of a penalty do you put on production against FCS teams?
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:12 am to
yawn
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:14 am to
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How much of a penalty do you put on production against FCS teams?

There is no exact penalty, rather the committee, in addition to looking at production in all games, also looks at production vs. FBS opponents, production vs. Power 5 opponents, and production v.s conference opponents. Then the committee further looks at the strenght of the individual teams the production has come against.

Notably, many are upset with the CAP ranking, but all the numbers support his ranking. Indeed, he is averaging 140 yards per game and 6 yards per touch against SEC opponents. That is substantially better than other back not named Gurley or Robinson.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 9:15 am
Posted by RollDatRoll
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
12245 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:21 am to
Glad to see Fournette and Yeldon are worth a mention
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:23 am to
If you think they should be higher, I would be happy to listen to your reasoning of why and who they should be ahead.
Posted by DeweysCox
Georgia
Member since Oct 2014
424 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:27 am to
These lists are really shitty
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18499 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:30 am to
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gatorhata9
quote:

CAP is the most over rated RB in the SEC.
quote:

He's almost reached Fournette territory
We're sorry that Fournette went for 140 and 2 scores last weekend. UF DB is still being bulldozed into the end zone.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:30 am to
quote:

These lists are really shitty
Care to expound on this opinion?
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:30 am to
Who?
Posted by Sampson
Chicago
Member since Mar 2012
24562 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:31 am to
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He's almost reached Fournette territory

Really more LSU's o-line that was over rated, not him. LF is averaging approximately 38 yards less per game through 7 games than Gurley did his freshman season. I have zero doubt if LSU's much heralded o-line had played half as good as they were suppose to he would be right there with Gurley number wise. If the line plays the rest of the season like they did against UF, he will finish with close to 1200 yards and 15-17 TDs.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:36 am to
LOL at people saying that a RB nobody talks about or respects yet still puts up really productive numbers is overrated. Pretty much the polar opposite.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:59 am to
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TJ Yeldon is really shitty

fixt
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:00 am to
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Collins and Williams, both, would have superior numbers if they weren't sharing carries


So? Gurley/Chubb/Sony all split some carries early on as well.

The cream rises to the top.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:01 am to
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LOL at people saying that a RB nobody talks about or respects yet still puts up really productive numbers is overrated. Pretty much the polar opposite.


That analysis is kind of funny when you consider that those that criticize Cartis Payne do so because he is productive because of the system, not because he is an overwhelming talent. You've basically correctly identified precisely why people think CAP isn't so much good as he is a product and are laughing at it for some reason.

ETA: I also like that WDE goes with Cameron-Artis Payne instead of Cameron Artis-Payne. I thought you were an Auburn fan, bro.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 10:04 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52687 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:03 am to
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TJ Yeldon is really shitty


No, he's pretty damn good.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12747 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:07 am to
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CAP is the most over rated RB in the SEC.
Currently, maybe.

All time, until CAP wins the Heisman, that title still belongs to Ingram.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:29 am to
Fixed per Desmond Howard.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:08 am to
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Fixed per Desmond Howard.


He's called him Cartis on several occasions as well. The hyphenated name gives all announcers fits.
Posted by 870Hog
99999 posts
Member since Jul 2011
16189 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:19 am to
Collins was suspended for miss a meeting & workout for the first quarter fwiw
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