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re: Way Too Early 2015 Mock Draft - Todd McShay

Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:17 pm to
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Along with every other person in the business.


Well, that's complete bullshite, but you can go ahead and type up throw-away statements as much as your little heart desires.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:20 pm to
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Well, that's complete bullshite, but you can go ahead and type up throw-away statements as much as your little heart desires.


Link to a mock draft that didn't have Bridgewater going 1 or 2 before 2014?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:24 pm to
No La'el but Jalen Mills? Dude won't even enter the draft.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:24 pm to
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Link to a mock draft that didn't have Bridgewater going 1 or 2 before 2014?
Mel Kiper's first mock draft had Manziel #1 overall. TB was #8.

LINK

Any other great retorts in your arsenal? Wanna keep talking out of your arse?
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
14701 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:33 pm to
Amari Cooper will not be a first round pick. I offer up my right nut. Greatly overrated. #2? LOL. McShay and Kiper are the worst.
Posted by Mizzou to my Lou
Miami
Member since Sep 2013
1767 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:37 pm to
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2. Amari Cooper*, WR, Alabama



Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:41 pm to
So because Kiper
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Any other great retorts in your arsenal? Wanna keep talking out of your arse?


I'm still waiting on you to provide a link, because that one does not satisfy what I said. How does a link of Kiper having Bridgewater 8th in his mock draft, after the 2014 season has already ended, in any way support what you are trying to say about McShay's pre-season mock draft?
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:42 pm to
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Mel Kiper's first mock draft had Manziel #1 overall. TB was #8.

Well that was only January of this year, after the football season. He's asking for one from before 2014.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:43 pm to
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No La'el but Jalen Mills? Dude won't even enter the draft.




Let me start out by saying McShay is a freaking joke. Collins will be a 1st round pick. FYI, Mills has been moved to Safety and is on the Ronnie Lott watch list. So yeah good chance by year end and after work outs he will be some where around the 1st round to 2nd.

I love the fact he has the Saints in the SB
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:44 pm to
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McShay and Kiper are the worst.


They consistently rate just as good as many others in their profession. According to metrics out there, the best anyone can hope to do is to get 20-25% of the first round picks right. It's even harder to do it when the season hasn't even started yet.

But if you are so sure, I will offer up a ban bet that Amari is a first round pick. If he is, you leave until the 2016 draft. If he isn't, I'll leave until the 2016 draft.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:44 pm to
The Seahawks with Beast Mode AND Gurley? Man...
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:45 pm to
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Mills has been moved to Safety and is on the Ronnie Lott watch list. So yeah good chance by year end and after work outs he will be some where around the 1st round to 2nd.


How can McShay accurately predict this guy when LSU fans can't even agree on where he will be picked and whether he will even come out this year.
Posted by Yintros
Bateon Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
590 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:45 pm to
Amari Cooper going #2 overall is ridiculous. For a WR to get drafted that high, they need to have freak physical attributes. He is more of a Brandon Cooks type of WR, though Cooks is faster.
Posted by AgCoug
Houston
Member since Jan 2014
5859 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:45 pm to
Haha, at the Cowboys going 7-9. What a joke. It's obvious they will be 8-8.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:48 pm to
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He is more of a Brandon Cooks type of WR, though Cooks is faster.



Cooper is 6-1, 205. Cooks is 5-10, 189. Three inches and 15 pounds is a big difference, especially when you are the same speed. Amari clocked in at 4.34 while Cooks is a 4.31.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:51 pm to
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How can McShay accurately predict this guy when LSU fans can't even agree on where he will be picked and whether he will even come out this year.




Who is debating on where he will be picked and everyone knows that all LSU juniors come out
Posted by Yintros
Bateon Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
590 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:56 pm to
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Cooper is 6-1, 205. Cooks is 5-10, 189. Three inches and 15 pounds is a big difference, especially when you are the same speed. Amari clocked in at 4.34 while Cooks is a 4.31.


Cooper doesn't run a 4.34, watch his highlights. Cooks ran a 4.33. Cooper weighs less than 205lbs, unless he has put on weight since he last played.

Cooper won't go in the top 10. I'd do a permaban bet on that.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:00 pm to
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I'm still waiting on you to provide a link, because that one does not satisfy what I said. How does a link of Kiper having Bridgewater 8th in his mock draft, after the 2014 season has already ended, in any way support what you are trying to say about McShay's pre-season mock draft?
Are you fricking mental? Or do you just have problems with basic reading comprehension?

Since you couldn't understand it the first time...
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All I know is, is his first mock draft in Dec 2013 had Teddy Bridgewater overall #1
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first mock draft in Dec 2013
You said EVERYONE IN THE BUSINESS HAD HIM THERE!!!!! HURRRRRRRRRRRRR

It wasn't a pre-season mock draft Einstein. I never said it was pre-season. Read before responding.


ETA: and damn looks like I missed the 2014 football season too?
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after the 2014 season has already ended,
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 4:03 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:02 pm to
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So yeah good chance by year end and after work outs he will be some where around the 1st round to 2nd.

So is it this, or is it 1st rounder, take it to the bank?
I don't believe it either way.
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Alabamya
Da Ham
Member since Jan 2009
9179 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:29 pm to
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Cooper doesn't run a 4.34, watch his highlights


Cooper out ran Tony Brown in a heads up race in the spring. Do you consider TB fast?
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