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re: Was Ole Miss naive or just plain greedy...

Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:32 pm to
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Because it's the NCAA



Yeah, that doesn't mean anything. If they want to make an example of Ole Miss, they'll make an example of Ole Miss.


Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:34 pm to
Only 5 violations found in a three year investigation. I'm not too concerned
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7729 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:36 pm to
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However, if they come out and say we failed to monitor properly, we're self imposing and here is the changes we are implementing to take corrective action, they will survive this well.


I am not so sure of this. The NCAA has taken a lot of flack for being a paper tiger. Ole Miss is blatantly cheating in front of everyone like they don't even care. This may be the time when the NCAA decides it's time to flex it's muscles and make an example of Ole Miss.
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:39 pm to
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Henry Jones Jr
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Have you read any of the reports. Only 5 are football related and they are from the Nutt Era and the Tunsil stuff had already been covered. Keep wishing though



Alabama, textbookgate.... only 5 football players involved, during the Shula era... football players were suspended the last 5 games by the school..... most violations were other sports like track, not football.... but football ended up on 3 years probation with all games vacated during the years they played.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:40 pm to
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The NCAA doesn't necessarily need proof. It's kind of like getting Capone on tax evasion. They know you are cheating your arse off. If they can't find proof on Freeze they can go back for years find one little thing and hammer you. Ole Miss is in treacherous waters.




Finally, someone is making some sense.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:40 pm to
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I know we cheat in recruiting. I'm just saying the NCAA doesnt have any hard evidence of it under Freeze


If you're good at recruiting, you cheat. Every sec team does. Coaches may not be directly involved but boosters have been doing this forever. Just make sure recruits keep things quiet
Posted by cyde
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:40 pm to
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Alabama, textbookgate.... only 5 football players involved, during the Shula era... football players were suspended the last 5 games by the school..... most violations were other sports like track, not football.... but football ended up on 3 years probation with all games vacated during the years they played.

I'd be the frick terrified if I were them.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:41 pm to
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I am not so sure of this. The NCAA has taken a lot of flack for being a paper tiger. Ole Miss is blatantly cheating in front of everyone like they don't even care. This may be the time when the NCAA decides it's time to flex it's muscles and make an example of Ole Miss.


I also work in a self reporting agency as someone that handles investigations. Rule #1 with an examiner is show humility. The NCAA's job isn't to destroy a program. If they show an honest willingness to correct the situation, it's a win/win.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:45 pm to
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three year investigation. I'm not too concerned


Yeah, you are. Otherwise you wouldn't feel the need to come post things you can't possibly have any real info on in a pathetic attempt to defend your team.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:45 pm to
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If they show an honest willingness to correct the situation



Ole Miss, humility and honesty don't go together. They've been waving their racist dicks at the NCAA for 4 years, and now they're gonna start showing humility and playing by the rules?


Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:48 pm to
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Let's go all in and s
All in?

That's a Barner stance and I will not accept such chicanery.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7729 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:51 pm to
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All in?

That's a Barner stance and I will not accept such chicanery.



I chose those words for a reason.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:57 pm to
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Ole Miss, humility and honesty don't go together. They've been waving their racist dicks at the NCAA for 4 years, and now they're gonna start showing humility and playing by the rules?


That's the rub though. I don't know how they've acted during the investigation.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14104 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 6:05 pm to
Yeah, I hear Freeze has been running a clean ship. There aren't any reasons out there for anyone to think otherwise.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 7:08 pm to
Though we have one of the richest women's college hoops histories out there, State was slowly starting to pass us up and we really didn't handle it well. It's a shame really.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 7:48 pm to
There are good reasons that the NCAA remains camped out in Freeze's office. This is far from over.

OM will continue to cheat even while on probation, as they have in the past, but the money faucet will probably handled in a more discreet manner.

Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12737 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 7:57 pm to
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Billy Kinard


Now that's a name I haven't heard in a while. He was my HS football coach. One good year when we had a great QB but we sucked every year under Kinard.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:21 pm to
Good analysis.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:38 pm to
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Have you read any of the reports



Yep. Your AD and he clearly points out that some of this is related to what happened with ULL.


Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:40 pm to
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. Ole Miss is blatantly cheating in front of everyone like they don't even care.



That's something that they are not even talking about

1- investigation for 3 years..
2- Saunders is discovered
3- Still cheats while being investigated (Tunsil's very PUBLIC issue)

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