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Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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McClain and Jackson have started every game of every year they have been in the league. They aren't superstars, but they aren't busts.
They are considered busts because of where they were drafted. Ro was a top 10 pick and Jackson was in the top 20 of the 1st round.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:16 pm to MightyYat
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Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:17 pm to MightyYat
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Jackson was in the top 20 of the 1st round.
And he's been a starter for 6 straight years with the same organization. How is that a bust at the #20 pick? That is asinine. They gave him a four year extension in March 2015.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:17 pm to StopRobot
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Courtney Upshaw NFL Starter
Landon Collins NFL Starter
Plenty of shitty players start on NFL teams. The Saints are littered with them.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:18 pm to MightyYat
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Trent Richardson
Yep.
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Rolando McClain
No.
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Kareem Jackson
Just signed a huge 4 year, $34Mil contract extension with $20Mil guaranteed. So, no.
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Mark Barron
Has turned into a badass linebacker for the Rams. Had 16 tackles a few weeks ago. Maybe not living up to his hype as a safety, but definitely not a bust. Yet.
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Dre Kirkpatrick
Having a good year for Cinci as a full time starter. They picked up his 5th year option for $7+ Million. Gruden wouldn't stop sucking him off the other night on MNF.
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Terrence Cody
2nd round draft pick that started for 3 years in Baltimore. I wouldn't classify him as a bust.
The only guy on your list that should be considered a bust is Trent Richardson.
That's pretty damn good for a team that's put 15 players in the 1st round.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:18 pm to MightyYat
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Plenty of shitty players start on NFL teams. The Saints are littered with them.
So players that aren't all pros are busts?
Wow, should we go down the list of all the LSU grads that fit that category? Might be here a while.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
LSU Players since 2007 - these guys busts? None of them have played up to their selection spot.
JaMarcus Russell - #1 pick
LaRon Landy - #6 pick
Dwayne Bowe - #23 pick
Craig Davis - #30 pick
Glenn Dorsey - #5 pick
Chevis Jackson - #68 pick
Tyson Jackson - #3 pick
Morris Claiborne - #6 pick
Michael Brockers - #14 pick
Rueben Randle - #63 pick
Barkevious Mingo - #6 pick
Eric Reid - #18 pick
Ego Ferguson - #51 pick
Jeremy Hill - #55 pick
JaMarcus Russell - #1 pick
LaRon Landy - #6 pick
Dwayne Bowe - #23 pick
Craig Davis - #30 pick
Glenn Dorsey - #5 pick
Chevis Jackson - #68 pick
Tyson Jackson - #3 pick
Morris Claiborne - #6 pick
Michael Brockers - #14 pick
Rueben Randle - #63 pick
Barkevious Mingo - #6 pick
Eric Reid - #18 pick
Ego Ferguson - #51 pick
Jeremy Hill - #55 pick
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:31 pm to SummerOfGeorge
JaMarcus Russell - #1 pick BUST
LaRon Landy - #6 pick Not worth the pick but good in the NFL
Dwayne Bowe - #23 pick Legit NFL WR
Craig Davis - #30 pick BUST
Glenn Dorsey - #5 pick BUST
Chevis Jackson - #68 pick BUST
Tyson Jackson - #3 pick Not worth the pick but good in the NFL
Morris Claiborne - #6 pick BUST
Michael Brockers - #14 pick Not worth the pick but good in the NFL
Rueben Randle - #63 pick Legit WR in the NFL
Barkevious Mingo - #6 pick BUST
Eric Reid - #18 pick Legit NFL Safety
Ego Ferguson - #51 pick Not worth the pick but good in the NFL
Jeremy Hill - #55 pick Legit NFL RB
LaRon Landy - #6 pick Not worth the pick but good in the NFL
Dwayne Bowe - #23 pick Legit NFL WR
Craig Davis - #30 pick BUST
Glenn Dorsey - #5 pick BUST
Chevis Jackson - #68 pick BUST
Tyson Jackson - #3 pick Not worth the pick but good in the NFL
Morris Claiborne - #6 pick BUST
Michael Brockers - #14 pick Not worth the pick but good in the NFL
Rueben Randle - #63 pick Legit WR in the NFL
Barkevious Mingo - #6 pick BUST
Eric Reid - #18 pick Legit NFL Safety
Ego Ferguson - #51 pick Not worth the pick but good in the NFL
Jeremy Hill - #55 pick Legit NFL RB
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Jeremy Hill - #55 pick
What?! I understand he is having a bad year, but it's only his second season and he was one of the most productive rookies in the league last year.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:32 pm to MightyYat
Fair analysis.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:34 pm to UpToPar
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What?! I understand he is having a bad year, but it's only his second season and he was one of the most productive rookies in the league last year.
I don't think SOG was trying to say all those players were busts. He was just using that list to make a point about how Bama players are scrutinized.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:34 pm to MightyYat
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JaMarcus Russell - #1 pick BUST LaRon Landy - #6 pick Not worth the pick but good in the NFL Dwayne Bowe - #23 pick Legit NFL WR Craig Davis - #30 pick BUST Glenn Dorsey - #5 pick BUST Chevis Jackson - #68 pick BUST Tyson Jackson - #3 pick Not worth the pick but good in the NFL Morris Claiborne - #6 pick BUST Michael Brockers - #14 pick Not worth the pick but good in the NFL Rueben Randle - #63 pick Legit WR in the NFL Barkevious Mingo - #6 pick BUST Eric Reid - #18 pick Legit NFL Safety Ego Ferguson - #51 pick Not worth the pick but good in the NFL Jeremy Hill - #55 pick Legit NFL RB
LOL - using your same logic to Alabama guys all of those players are busts except for Dwayne Bowe. Landy, Jackson, Brockers, Randle, Reid and Hill have all totally underperformed their pick spot.
BUSTS
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:35 pm to Tuscaloosa
To me it just shows why Saban is so good in college. He builds his defenses to win in college and that doesn't necessarily translate to the NFL. He overwhelms over 90% of the teams he plays with talent and size that gets equalized in the NFL and that's perfectly fine. He's paid to win college football games.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:35 pm to UpToPar
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What?! I understand he is having a bad year, but it's only his second season and he was one of the most productive rookies in the league last year.
I agree he is not a bust. I did not develop the criteria, Yat did. Under his criteria he's a bust.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:37 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I agree he is not a bust. I did not develop the criteria, Yat did. Under his criteria he's a bust.
I didn't develop shite. Google Alabama football busts and see what comes up. I didn't make up that list.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:37 pm to MightyYat
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Plenty of shitty players start on NFL teams. The Saints are littered with them.
Keep trying
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:39 pm to MightyYat
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He builds his defenses to win in college and that doesn't necessarily translate to the NFL.
Guys drafted since 2010
- Rolando McClain, starting MLB
- Kareem Jackson, starting CB
- Marcell Dareus, starting DT
- Mark Barron, starting OLB
- Dre Kirkpatrickm, starting CB
- Donta Hightower, starting MLB
- Courtney Upshaw, starting rush end
- Quinton Dial, starting DE
- CJ Mosley, starting MLB
- HaHa Clinton Dix, starting FS
- Landon Collins, starting Safety
Yeah, clearly those guys haven't translated to the NFL. They all suck.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:39 pm to StopRobot
Get your USA Today a couple of days later than the rest of the world?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:39 pm to MightyYat
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Ro was a top 10 pick
Ro's an interesting one.
First three years? Bust by every measure.
Retires, unretires, retires again. Sits out an entire year.
And then somehow comes back and is playing the best football of his NFL career.
Go figure....
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