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re: Unbiased Daily: Auburn was the better team last night

Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:12 am to
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:12 am to
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Auburn score more points. They were not the better team.

Also had more yards, played better defense and had a better field goal kicker. I'm not sure what makes one team better than the other in your eyes though.
Posted by David Cornwell
Member since Jun 2014
983 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:12 am to
Auburn's missing Tre Mason.
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:13 am to
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played better defense


getting gifted turnovers doesn't make your defense good.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:13 am to
Missing dee ford and carl lawson more. I think the breakdowns in the running game were less about the backs and more about not adjusting to what KSU was doing and not making the right reads on most of the option plays.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:14 am to
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getting gifted turnovers doesn't make your defense good.
So we didn't play better defense than they did?
Posted by au21tigers
Thursday
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Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:15 am to
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25275 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:17 am to
KState isn't nearly as bad as the SEC tards would let you believe.

Auburn is a 9 or 10 win team, but Kstate is a solid Big 12 program.

The game didn't have any effect on Auburn's chances to win the SEC, so I'm not surprised with the flat performance in their first true road game.
Posted by whiskeyjohn
Member since Aug 2013
1153 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:17 am to
One thing I noticed several times last night was the failure of the Big 12 officiating crew to mark the ball in a "normal" manner. They were late too many times for it not to be somewhat intentional. Also, after marking the ball, the official would stand over the ball for another 2-3 seconds... even with knowing no substitutions were made. Those actions slowed the Tigers down and had Gus furious on the sidelines more than once.
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:18 am to
I think LSU fans can understand your point.


We've been there and had everyone telling us we should've lost. At the end of the day, all that matters is: did you win? Auburn won and come November, no one will give 2 craps about this game the same way no one cared about the MSU win for you guys last year.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:20 am to
I didn't notice it, but I believe you. From my vantage point it seemed the refs called it slightly in favor of KSU, but it wasn't really a poorly officiated game all around relatively speaking. Pretty typical of what we see every Saturday. I won't put any blame on the refs for the way we played. Offense was out of sync for the most part from start to finish and there is blame that can be spread throughout.
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:22 am to
No, you didn't.

A ballhawk defense that gets lots of picks and forces fumbles can take credit for playing good defense.

The turnovers KSU gave you were GIFTS. you had almost nothing to do with it. high schoolers could have come up with those balls just as easily.

KSU Defense failed to come up with the ball when it was given similar opportunities at the end of the game. But KSU was getting tackles for loss and no gain all day.

KSU made Auburn punt 5 times, Auburn made KSU punt 3 times. Auburn gave up two touchdowns and 3 field goal opportunities. KSU gave up two touchdowns and 2 field goal opportunities.

You got the win. hostile environment. KSU more prepared, you won anyway. you should be happy about no part of your team's actual performance.


This post was edited on 9/19/14 at 9:26 am
Posted by whiskeyjohn
Member since Aug 2013
1153 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:25 am to
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I didn't notice it, but I believe you. From my vantage point it seemed the refs called it slightly in favor of KSU, but it wasn't really a poorly officiated game all around relatively speaking. Pretty typical of what we see every Saturday. I won't put any blame on the refs for the way we played. Offense was out of sync for the most part from start to finish and there is blame that can be spread throughout.


Agree for the most part. Some of those PI calls probably don't get made in the SEC. Also, a couple of those punt returns I noticed two or three blocks in the back that were not called. All in all, I do think the officiating was decent, but I don't think they were in as much of a hurry as Auburn when setting the ball. Maybe just me being overly critical.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:31 am to
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A ballhawk defense that gets lots of picks
Auburn was 4th in the nation in ints/game (2 per game) going into Manhattan.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:32 am to
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The turnovers KSU gave you were GIFTS. you had almost nothing to do with it.
Not true on all the turnovers. TR's int was a good play by TR on a ball that was forced due to d-line pressure. Were the dropped balls by AU receivers, at least one of which was going for a TD, not gifts?

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KSU Defense failed to come up with the ball when it was given similar opportunities at the end of the game.
So that means they were better on Defense than us because they didn't take advantage of opportunities? That is a weird way to determine it.

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But KSU was getting tackles for loss and no gain all day.
And AU wasn't? I'm pretty sure we had more sacks and tackles for loss.

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KSU made Auburn punt 5 times, Auburn made KSU punt 3 times.
Because we turned them over. Sure, a couple of them were gifts, but so were a couple of our punts.

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you should be happy about no part of your team's actual performance.
D played solid and showed improvement. All I said is that our defense was better than KSU's last night. I didn't say I was happy with our performance.
This post was edited on 9/19/14 at 9:35 am
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:38 am to
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And AU wasn't? I'm pretty sure we had more sacks and tackles for loss.


KSU defense was doing it against Auburn offense. Auburn defense was doing it against KSU offense. get on my variable evaluation level bro.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:43 am to
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KSU defense was doing it against Auburn offense.
So 0 sacks and 5 tfl. You take away credit from AUs D for KSU's offensive mistakes, but give KSU's D credit for AUs multiple offensive mistakes.

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Auburn defense was doing it against KSU offense.
Yes, AU's defense which has been bad to mediocre for years now, shut down K State's run game (40 total yards), had 6 TFL and 3 sacks, turned K State over 3 times and only allowed 14 points in a game where its offense wasn't scoring points. That is pretty good for this defense even considering that K State helped out with their own mistakes.
This post was edited on 9/19/14 at 9:45 am
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:45 am to
omg dude recognize the compliment.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46375 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:47 am to
We all know K state has a guaranteed win in November from the whorned frogs
Posted by The Mullet Whisperer
Member since Feb 2014
81 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:48 am to
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Auburn's missing Tre Mason.


and GRob and Kozan
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105399 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:50 am to
Auburn stole those points.
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