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Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:23 pm to UL-SabanRival
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Oh, okay. Let's throw him in jail then.
That's idiotic. You are unable to distinguish between sitting out a few football games while still remaining in school on a scholarship paid for by the university and jail time.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:25 pm to roadGator
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There is no winning this fight for UF. We don't suspend him and he ends up being guilty then we get torched. We suspend him and he's innocent we get torched. Imagine the stupidity on this board if we didn't suspend him. The press would eat us alive too.
All correct. And few of the media will really torch UF for suspending a kid who turns out to appear to be innocent. It's an easy decision from a liability perspective for UF.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:32 pm to the808bass
Least they have their priorities straight.
FSU could learn something here, but doubt
they do.
FSU could learn something here, but doubt
they do.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:59 pm to the808bass
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It's an easy decision from a liability perspective for UF.
Having been involved with general counsel at UF over a far less seedy issue, I can back that up.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 4:42 pm to the808bass
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That's idiotic. You are unable to distinguish between sitting out a few football games while still remaining in school on a scholarship paid for by the university and jail time.
So, moderate punishment in the absence of proof is okay but severe punishment is not? Okay. Where do you draw the line? Is he semi-innocent until proven guilty?
Posted on 10/7/14 at 4:44 pm to UL-SabanRival
Yes, if your definition of "moderate punishment" is being held out of a couple of games. It is completely ok. If they wanted to hold him out because they thought he skipped a few classes they're perfectly in their rights. They wouldn't need a preponderance of evidence or a hearing, either.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 4:56 pm to the808bass
I seriously doubt they resolve this in two weeks, so I disagree that it will be a couple of games. They also may ban him from campus, per the OP, so that would mean flunking out of school.
I agree that it's a no win situation for UF, but this is more about them covering their asses than it is about justice, and I disagree that the media will criticize the university if he's found to be innocent. They didn't in Winston's case. He still assumed to be guilty by many. I hear it on talk radio all the time.
I agree that it's a no win situation for UF, but this is more about them covering their asses than it is about justice, and I disagree that the media will criticize the university if he's found to be innocent. They didn't in Winston's case. He still assumed to be guilty by many. I hear it on talk radio all the time.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 5:09 pm to UL-SabanRival
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I seriously doubt they resolve this in two weeks, so I disagree that it will be a couple of games. They also may ban him from campus, per the OP, so that would mean flunking out of school.
They'll have a far clearer picture of the validity of the charges in a couple of weeks.
And Winston wasn't found innocent. The prosecutor said he couldn't prosecute the case. After numerous irregularities between the police and Winston's attorney.
I do agree that the school won't get media flack if Treon is exonerated or not charged.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:59 pm to UL-SabanRival
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UL-SabanRival
He's not in jail..... Just can't play football
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:27 pm to UL-SabanRival
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why should school "justice" be any different than established criminal justice? Is an accusation all it takes to bring down a player? It's not just a guy missing a couple of games. Some people will always believe he did it, just because he was accused.
That happens often whenever anyone is investigated for anything. If an elementary school teacher is being investigated for child sexual abuse, should he be suspended until after the investigation is over? He hasn't been found guilty of anything.
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