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re: UF defense vs. Bama defense

Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:03 pm to
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Bama is currently #2 in the nation in rushing D (UF is #10) so running is pretty much out of the question...not that we rely on our rushing game.

But Bama is #40 in passing yards allowed (again UF is #10) #68 at Turnovers Lost (UF is #13 at T/O Gained) so we will have our opportunities to gain yards and keep Henry/Co. off the field.


What you're missing is that Alabama's got those rankings while playing a schedule were 8 of the 10 teams they've faced are already bowl eligible and one of the other is 1 win away.

Florida's faced four.

Combined record of Bama's opponents: 61-38
Combined record of Florida's opponents: 49-49

You, like several other teams this year, really don't know what you're facing.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:07 pm to
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The thing about UF that is dangerous is their fast arse WRs. They are capable of big plays before you even know what hit you. While Treon is obviously no super-star, he is capable of getting the ball to those WRs.


Yep. They have speed at WR and I wouldn't be surprised to see them hit a homerun or two.

What I don't think they'll do is have the sustained drives needed to keep Henry & company off the field. In between those homeruns, there are going to be a lot of 3 and outs and more than a few sacks and pressure-induced QB mistakes.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83462 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:09 pm to
I realize this isn't very fair, seeing as the stats are close....but I feel like Alabama's defense is on another planet than UF's.
Posted by iglass
North Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
2918 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

UA defense vs Ole Miss
433 yards total offense
92 rushing
341 passing
43 points


UF defense vs Ole Miss
328 yards total offense
69 rushing
259 passing
10 points


To be fair, it wasn't Bama's defense that cost them the Ole Miss game. It was turnovers and special teams.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83462 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

Bama is currently #2 in the nation in rushing D (UF is #10) so running is pretty much out of the question...not that we rely on our rushing game.
No

UF will not be able to run on UA at all. Henry will get his.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

What you're missing is that Alabama's got those rankings while playing a schedule were 8 of the 10 teams they've faced are already bowl eligible and one of the other is 1 win away.

Florida's faced four.

Combined record of Bama's opponents: 61-38
Combined record of Florida's opponents: 49-49

You, like several other teams this year, really don't know what you're facing.


Also, Bama's average margin of victory is 17.6 points.

Florida's margin of victory is 13.6 points.

Alabama has given up 13 points per game on average to 3 ranked teams.

Florida has given up 35 points per game to one ranked team.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

I realize this isn't very fair, seeing as the stats are close....but I feel like Alabama's defense is on another planet than UF's.


It is fair once you actually look a tad deeper into the statistics

Alabama Defense
Yards Per Pass Attempt : 5.7 (#7)
Completion % Against : 50.3% (#7)
Pass Rating per Game : 100.6 (#7)
Rush YPC : 2.49 (#2)
Rush YPG : 77.1 (#2)

Florida Defense
Yards Per Pass Attempt : 5.8 (#10)
Completion % Against : 52.8% (#16)
Pass Rating per game : 103.95 (#9)
Rush YPC : 3.19 (#11)
Rush YPG : 105.1 (#10)

Offenses Played so Far (S&P Overall)
Alabama
Wisconsin - #75
MTSU - #55
Ole Miss - #18
ULM - #122
Georgia - #76
Arkansas - #5
Texas A&M - #49
Tennessee - #40
LSU - #14
Mississippi State - #30
AVERAGE : #48.4

Florida
NMSU - #84
East Carolina - #72
Kentucky - #102
Tennessee - #40
Ole Miss - #18
Missouri - #124
LSU - #14
Georgia - #76
Vanderbilt - #118
South Carolina - #67
AVERAGE : #71.5

Florida has played 3 pretty solid offenses so far : Tennessee, Ole Miss, LSU.

Tennessee : 420 yards, 27 pts
Ole Miss : 328 yards, 10 pts
LSU : 423 yards, 35 pts

The rest of the offenses have been below average or awful (a bunch have been awful).

Florida has dominated terrible offenses
NMSU - 13 pts
ECU - 24 pts
UK - 9 pts
Mizzou - 3 pts
UGA - 3 pts
Vandy - 7 pts
USCe - 14 pts

This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:26 pm to
How do the schedules compare? Not trolling, I'm just wondering because it seems like every week, Alabama is playing someone who's in the top 20 until the loss to Alabama knocks them out of the top 25.

So far we have similar opponents in Tennessee, Ole Miss, UGA, and LSU.
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 12:30 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

How do the schedules compare? Not trolling, I'm just wondering because it seems like every week, Alabama is playing someone who's in the top 20 until the loss to Alabama knocks them out of the top 25.


See above
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:31 pm to
I hope Florida loses to Florida State, and then I don't really care what happens in the SECCG.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:33 pm to
Your stats are a bit misleading. You have not played the caliber of schedule that BAMA has played.

BAMA - 38
UF - 16

Extends win streak to 5 vs. Gators

The Football Power Index (FPI)

BAMA - 3RD / FLORIDA - 14TH

Sagarin Ratings:

BAMA - 1ST / Florida - 10TH

Strength of Schedule:

BAMA - 3RD / Florida - 31ST

Record vs. Top 30:

BAMA: 6-1 / Florida: 3-1




Posted by amders44
Atlanta Metro
Member since Jun 2013
674 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:37 pm to
The passing yards statistic is a little misleading as well. We have given up quite a few passing yards, but one of the reasons for this is because no one is running on us so they keep slinging it around. You get a much truer picture if you look at our pass defensive efficiency stats. We are first in the conference in that area.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:41 pm to
Yeah I just saw. Good post.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Bama defense by thefloydian
Your QB is Treon Harris. Florida doesn't even qualify as a speed bump this year


Your's is Jake Coker, if you throw 20 passes our offense might not even have to pass midfield for us to win by double digits.
Posted by JaboStokes
Member since Nov 2008
1865 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:49 pm to
As Mike Tyson once said, "They all have a plan to beat me until I hit them in the mouth."
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:51 pm to
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Your's is Jake Coker, if you throw 20 passes our offense might not even have to pass midfield for us to win by double digits.


You have to rely on Treon Harris.

We have to rely on the current leader for the Heisman Trophy.

Kind of a different dynamic.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52693 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Your's is Jake Coker, if you throw 20 passes our offense might not even have to pass midfield for us to win by double digits.



Coker has been doing a great job of protecting the ball lately.

The interception in the MSU game was a glorified punt on third down. Didn't hurt us.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Your's is Jake Coker, if you throw 20 passes our offense might not even have to pass midfield for us to win by double digits.



Harris: 75-135 55.6% 1109 yds 6 td 3 int 14 sacks
Games started against bowl-eligible teams: 2
Record as starter against bowl-eligible teams: 1-1

Coker: 176-273 64.5% 1951 yds 12 td 8 int 16 sacks
Games started against bowl-eligible teams: 7
Record as starter against bowl-eligible teams: 7-0

I'd say one of the teams involved might want to worry about their QB, but that team isn't Alabama.

Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:02 pm to
Dude you should honestly be worrying about Cook. The way LF7 ran all over you guys would have me concerned. Cook is a beast in his own right.
Posted by LoneMDG
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
2747 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Bama is currently #2 in the nation in rushing D (UF is #10) so running is pretty much out of the question...not that we rely on our rushing game.

But Bama is #40 in passing yards allowed (again UF is #10) #68 at Turnovers Lost (UF is #13 at T/O Gained) so we will have our opportunities to gain yards and keep Henry/Co. off the field.


Bama's right with Florida on Turnover game (21-20), just hampered by the -5 T/O margin against Ole Miss. The epitome of Snake Bit (as well as a loss by 6 points)
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