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re: To all my UGA friends coming to Columbia.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:21 pm to theGarnetWay
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:21 pm to theGarnetWay
Same for me, Sandstorm reminds me of high school with my buddies because we always played it ironically at first, but then we actually just liked it
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Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:22 pm to meansonny
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think you overestimate South Carolina and her capabilities.
Fine.
Explain Florida.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:23 pm to MoarKilometers
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hot latinas?
dammit, you tricked me into clicking that link
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:26 pm to RoyalAir
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Fine.
Explain Florida.
Do Florida fans think that their AD spends unlimited resources?
I'm not defending Muschamps OC choices. I laughed when he hired Roper a 2nd time. Hard.
But he has not had what Alabama, Georgia, and now Texas A&M are providing their football teams.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:33 pm to meansonny
quote:he had enough that he should've finish ahead of Missouri or Kentucky in the division - and to not lose to Appalachian State. (same for Jimbob/A*M)
But he has not had what Alabama, Georgia, and now Texas A&M are providing their football teams.
he also had enough to not get shut out by Virginia in the Belk Bowl.
Muschamp had plenty of resource/recruiting money/facilites to produce more than he did at USC. Royal is right - none of it in Will's view was Will's fault. he ran a two-tiered program here much like he did at UF. certain players were favorites and treated as such while the rest of the team filled the 85 scholarships. Will only cared about hanging his hat on getting his favorites to the NFL.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:38 pm to 1801
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he had enough
Well... that isn't the comment I replied to.
Still, I think you overestimate the South Carolina program.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:43 pm to RoyalAir
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Fine.
Explain Florida.
This was Muschamp's quote after being fired from Florida:
"I was given every opportunity to get it done here and I simply didn't win enough games-that is the bottom line. I'm disappointed that I didn't get it done and it is my responsibility to get it done" (gatorzone.com)
That sounds like a coach who doesn't take responsibility.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:57 pm to Lonnie Utah
I hope it is a good game and all come out of the game safely.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:58 pm to meansonny
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That sounds like a coach who doesn't take responsibility
Its not that he wasn’t taking responsibility so much as he just couldn’t “get it done.” He is a great example of the peter principal in that he simply is not a head coach, the level of his incompetence is a rung or two lower on the ladder.
Tbh, his run at Carolina, while bad, is really more Tanner’s fault than his. There was no excuse hiring Muschamp after his stint at Florida. The fact that Tanner hires him means he either was incompetent because he could not see the obvious problems at UF or he was incompetent because he could not get any other coach to come on board.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:59 pm to MondayNightPavs
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Its not that he wasn’t taking responsibility so much as he just couldn’t “get it done.”
That is the opposite of what the other poster said. Which is why I replied.
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He is a great example of the peter principal in that he simply is not a head coach, the level of his incompetence is a rung or two lower on the ladder.
I don't disagree.
Our defense was pretty, pretty, good last year.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:00 pm to meansonny
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Still, I think you overestimate the South Carolina program.
No, we really don't. SC fans are really rather realistic. 6-6 is the modern (20 years) floor. Historically, we're around .500. 8-4 is a realistic goal, with an occasional 10+ win season when the stars align.
We don't expect national championships, though it's difficult to explain why we shouldn't strive for more when our neighbors in the Upstate have literally the same recruiting area, and have been far more successful as of late.
The state of SC outpunches its size w/r/t football talent. Factor NC and Delmarva, and parts of Georgia (knowing you're not likely going to beat out UGa head-to-head for most of those kids) and the expectations are realistic for competitive football.
Do we expect to beat UGA/UF/Clemson every year? No. But we haven't been competitive in those games since Muschamp took over. Yes, UGa got better. Hats off.
The program took a nosedive under Muschamp, and it was directly inverse to the investment made in every facet. That's on Will.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:04 pm to MondayNightPavs
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his run at Carolina, while bad, is really more Tanner’s fault than his. There was no excuse hiring Muschamp after his stint at Florida.
Tanner isn't a quality AD from the hiring/firing position, no doubt. But his master plans for facilities and upgrades have been phenomenal. There's no denying that the infrastructure is light years better than it was 10 years ago.
In retrospect, he should've hired Elliott when Herman and Kirby both said no. But I understand that he couldn't really do that after The Citadel game.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:07 pm to meansonny
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That is the opposite of what the other poster said. Which is why I replied.
I appreciate your posting his quote following the UF dismissal. I had forgotten he said that. Props. I'd wager that that was PR for his next position rather than genuine admission, but that's all hearsay.
I've never heard him mention anything after being removed in Columbia. To my knowledge, he's never discussed it. And if I'm not mistaken, Kirby doesn't let his assistants talk during PCs very often.
Apologies for spamming the board in triplicate. It's a slow day here at the Irmo Burger King.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:07 pm to meansonny
Yalls defense was stout, but his defenses at SC were mixed and his one year as Auburn DC was not that great.
All the more reason it drives the fans schools who formerly employees him up the wall.
All the more reason it drives the fans schools who formerly employees him up the wall.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:07 pm to RoyalAir
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Fine.
Explain Florida.
It seems that pretty much every isseu you have with WM can be summed up with: great position coach/coordinator, lousy HC.
He largely stunk as a HC at florida. He definitely stunk as a HC at SC. He was great as a DC with texas and AU. He's been great in a limited capacity on our staff. I don't really think ther'es a whole heck of a lot to read into teh situation aside from that. He peter principle'd his way too high, failed, then went back to where he flourishes.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:16 pm to WG_Dawg
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seems that pretty much every isseu you have with WM can be summed up with: great position coach/coordinator, lousy HC.
My experience with him at USC was in the one capacity. Why wouldn't that be my issue with him? For such a defensive mind, his defenses were average, at best.
He is the epitome of the Peter principle, to be sure.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:22 pm to RoyalAir
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My experience with him at USC was in the one capacity. Why wouldn't that be my issue with him?
because nobody is advocating that he was a good head coach? Nobody is debating you on what you're saying, we all agree he stunk as a head coach.
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For such a defensive mind, his defenses were average, at best.
richt was a world class OC at FSU and some of his later offenses at UGA (specifically under schott in 15) were unspeakably bad. Sometimes it happens when you have to run the entire program
Posted on 9/16/22 at 1:53 pm to RoyalAir
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The program took a nosedive under Muschamp
Muschamp took over a 3-9 program.
He finished 28-30.
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Historically, we're around .500.
I don't blame you for firing him.
I just think the "anger" towards his time is a little fabricated.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 4:14 pm to RoyalAir
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Fine.
Explain Florida
Jorts.
You’re welcome.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 4:29 pm to RoyalAir
quote:They still suck. Explain that.
Explain Florida.
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