re: TJ Moe speaks obvious truth about CFB unionizing

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Right now coaches make 10-30 times what presidents do, highly prized recruits are suddenly driving $60,000 cars, and their impoverished parents suddenly have new houses. Nobody worries about this, so I have a hard time worrying about whether the players unionize.

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Exactly. The whole system is a sham, but the product delivered every Saturday in the fall is too good to ignore.

Don't like the unionizing.

Should college athletes be paid? Yes

All you have to pay them is minimum wage or do them like Graduate assistants.

These kids think they have all this leverage. I'm not sure where they get it.

When Ryan Perrilloux was at LSU he was going to be the next big thing. When he transferred to Jacksonville State he was forgotten.

There are tens of thousands of kids waiting to fill the spots of the other athletes. What they aren't considering is that much of their value comes from school loyalty.

It truly is a very complex issue. But if they want to unionize they should forego college altogether and join the CFL or some other league.

They wouldn't get half the publicity they get with the current setup.

I have not read all the threads on CFB unionizing. Has anyone mentioned that since the NLRB has ruled the football players are employes and therefore eligible to unionize, this means they are employees for all other areas as well.

If an employee is given benefits (non cash) they must file these benefits with the IRS as income. Are the fine upstanding young men of Northwestern going to need to file the cost of their scholly as income? I would think so.

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I hated TJ Moe as a player, especially when Missouri benefitted from a blatant block in the back on a long TD reception for him to beat San Diego State in the final minute in 2010, but I agree with him here until he goes on about the endorsements and such.

Opposed to endorsements because it would create a lot of bidding wars for high school athletes.

"Come to Oregon Mr. 5 star recruit, and you will get your own Nike shoe line and a giant ad on a billboard in Times Square the moment you sign your LOI"

Not sure if we want that.

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No I'm sure we definitely don't want that.

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I hated TJ Moe as a player, especially when Missouri benefitted from a blatant block in the back on a long TD reception for him to beat San Diego State in the final minute in 2010,

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HERE is the play...."blatant BIB"? Get a fricking clue.

Northwestern tuition and fees is 60K a year, not to mention the perks they receive for free travel, lodging, and food while on the road. The IRS is probably salivating right now.

All the institution has to do is say fine. We will set you up as an employee(contractor) and count your travel perks as part of your salary. Since the agreement for them play at the university is via a contract(scholarship), they can be treated as contract employees hence the university can treat them as self-employed workers providing a service.

Wait until they get a tax bill at the end of the year for $60k. Not to mention that contract(scholarship) they sign with the university is for one year. It will give coaches even more leverage to process at the end of the year. Since they will now be treated like an employee and when not performing to standards said contract can be terminated without concern as student.

Now they can throw union all they want out there but lets remember all the right to work states including every SEC state where employees have that choice. And the at will states that an employer can fire at will and may eliminate employee from getting unemployment benefits. Not to mention all the states that allow an employer to require a non-compete contract stating that said employee leaves their current employer can not go and work for another employer doing the same job for lets say 3 years.

Another reason this country is in the shite because of unions and if this pushed through around the country CFB, especially the players will be screwed. I doubt this goes anywhere and hope it does not. There are far better ways to accomplish what s needs to be fixed in CFB than allowing a union to come in and flex muscle that really could care less about the athlete(employee but only concern is the money they will receive out of it. Sorry rant over.

I have no problem with players joining unions if they want to.

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They've already been doing that. EA settled with the plaintiffs in the O'Bannon lawsuit for like $40 million.

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And how much did each player make off that?

The world of college football is changing whether we like it or not. If you want to blame someone, blame ESPN. These kids have been wined, dined, and pampered by the likes of Herbstreit, Fowler, Corso, Howard, Andrews, Ponder, and many others over the years. They treat them like royalty while everyone makes money off of them at their expense. College football is now a multi-billion dollar industry and the players receive absolutely zilch. Did you actually think this could continue to go on as is without any type of protest?