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Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:37 am to RB10
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Assuming they don't completely frick up the picks, this trade alone sets up the Titans for the next 4-5 years.
That is a mighty big assumption. The last several times there have been these massive trade deals, not only has it not worked out well for the team that moved up, but the team that moved back has not managed to get *huge* value out of it either. It's difficult *not* to get better with 5 extra total draft picks in the first 3 rounds, particularly as it opens up your ability to then take those other picks, move back and "seed & grow" them.
If you look at the players that STL netted out of the RG3 deal, they didn't add a ton of future hall of famers, but what they did do is raise the "floor" of their organization.
I don't know enough about Titans management to know if this is likely to work out great for them, but it definitely should put them in a good spot to contend for what is not a very good division right now.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:37 am to StopRobot
Chargers better grab him
Tunsil and Fluker can finish off all the ribs at Phils BBQ
Tunsil and Fluker can finish off all the ribs at Phils BBQ
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:39 am to fibonaccisquared
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That is a mighty big assumption.
Um.......
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the team that moved back has not managed to get *huge* value out of it either. It's difficult *not* to get better with 5 extra total draft picks in the first 3 rounds, particularly as it opens up your ability to then take those other picks, move back and "seed & grow" them.
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I don't know enough about Titans management to know if this is likely to work out great for them, but it definitely should put them in a good spot to contend for what is not a very good division right now.
So, it sets them up for the next 4-5 years, like I said.
Thanks for reaffirming that, I guess.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 10:40 am
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:41 am to RB10
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The Titans just trade raped the Rams. If this were fantasy football that shite would have gotten vetoed with the quickness.
Agreed. I would have requested the person in the Rams position be voted out of my league for being this stupid.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 10:43 am
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:44 am to rebsfan10
Wonder if the Rams GM and Fisher know they are at the end of their rope and don't give a damn about the future. Plus having a new QB allows them to say, gimme a few years.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:44 am to fibonaccisquared
You can't only judge the trade by the picks the Rams acquired from the Skins. They used their own picks as well to compliment those selections.
1 of those teams has Todd Gurley, a plethora of skill players and a top 5 D.
The other team is trash.
1 of those teams has Todd Gurley, a plethora of skill players and a top 5 D.
The other team is trash.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:48 am to partywiththelombardi
The Titans are going to build around Mariota. They get a ton of top 75 picks this year to shore up some positions of need.
Then, next year they get a practically guaranteed top-10, possibly top-5, pick where they can get a playmaker on the outside or a Chuub/Cook/Fournette to help in the running game. This goes along with 8 more picks to fill out even more depth where needed.
Then, next year they get a practically guaranteed top-10, possibly top-5, pick where they can get a playmaker on the outside or a Chuub/Cook/Fournette to help in the running game. This goes along with 8 more picks to fill out even more depth where needed.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:52 am to RB10
The Titans did real well. They have 4 OT in this draft with 1st round grades...Tennessee will still get possibly the 3rd guy at that position off the board while having 5 other picks in the first 3 rounds to shore up anything they want.
"If" the Rams find their QB they can start competing to win their division not this year but possibly as soon as the following season.
"If" the Rams find their QB they can start competing to win their division not this year but possibly as soon as the following season.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:54 am to partywiththelombardi
L.A. Rams front office picking up where they left off in 1995 I see.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:41 am to GnashRebel
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Plus having a new QB allows them to say, gimme a few years.
There is a lot of truth to this.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:43 am to WithaRebelYell
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Also Carson Wentz was projected 3rd-4th round until the senior bowl.
Completely false.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:46 am to StopRobot
Mariota to Treadwell sounds good to me.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:11 pm to HottyToddy7
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Mariota to Treadwell sounds good to me.
Think Treadwell will make it all the way to pick 15?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:19 pm to GameCocky88
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Think Treadwell will make it all the way to pick 15?
Lots of people had him going to the Rams. But they no longer have a 2016 Draft. So its very possible.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:21 pm to RB10
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So, it sets them up for the next 4-5 years, like I said.
Kind of depends on what "sets them up" means... do you mean sets them up for a Super Bowl run? If so, I'd disagree. If you mean sets them up to contend for their division and not be a complete joke? Then absolutely. It's not like that division is full of juggernauts. Luck seems to have regressed a bit (though injuries have been at play there as well). I'm still not sure Mariota is going to be the answer for them at QB... want to see how he responds to year 2 and going forward.
I think you may have assumed I'm trying to trash your opinion... I was simply adding a counterpoint. It's not like the Rams have been on some unbelievable run in the last 4-5 years, but many made the same argument when they made the trade with Washington. You *could* argue that they're in a hell of a lot better of a place now, 4 years later than they were at the time of the trade, but past 4 years have not been exactly the definition of success. And even with that, they now find themselves in the position of desperately needing a QB to make the rest of the roster work.
Had you said that it set them up *in* the next 4-5 years, I probably would have jumped right in line with that thinking.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:23 pm to No Colors
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Lots of people had him going to the Rams. But they no longer have a 2016 Draft. So its very possible.
No kidding? I thought he was higher on the board than that.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:26 pm to fibonaccisquared
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I think you may have assumed I'm trying to trash your opinion... I was simply adding a counterpoint.
Except you didn't offer a counterpoint. You simply expanded on the point I made.
I never said they were going to contend for anything.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 1:14 pm to fibonaccisquared
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It's not like the Rams have been on some unbelievable run in the last 4-5 years, but many made the same argument when they made the trade with Washington. You *could* argue that they're in a hell of a lot better of a place now, 4 years later than they were at the time of the trade, but past 4 years have not been exactly the definition of success. And even with that, they now find themselves in the position of desperately needing a QB to make the rest of the roster work.
Completely agree with this (and the broader point). It's not like the Titans' FO has looked smart since the days of Vince Young being a viable NFL QB. I almost view them as the Browns South these days, though I do like Mariota and think he can definitely be an NFL QB.
Ultimately, I'm happy the Titans trade-raped the Rams because it seems like Tunsil will hopefully end up somewhere more competent than Nashville or Cleveland. I'd love to see him paired with a young QB like Luck or Bortles, though watching him protect Rivers while he finishes out his career in SD could be cool too. Plus, this trade means Treadwell can't end up in Los Angeles and instead can go somewhere potentially with a guy who can actually get him the ball. Sucks that Tunsil won't go #1, but I think him going to a more stable franchise than the Titans will eventually be better for his career.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 1:37 pm to RB10
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Except you didn't offer a counterpoint. You simply expanded on the point I made.
I never said they were going to contend for anything.
As I said, perhaps I misunderstood what you meant by "setup for the next 4-5 years".
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Point: Assuming they don't completely frick up the picks, this trade alone sets up the Titans for the next 4-5 years.
Counterpoint: That is a mighty big assumption.
As I noted in my follow up, it's not that it's impossible, but it's also not as though Titans front office has shown a propensity for really great drafting either. They should do fine, but "setup" implies that they do more than just fine IMO.
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