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re: This stupid Ole Miss / Rebel rags lawsuit
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:37 am to Saskwatch
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:37 am to Saskwatch
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How many times have you used a racial slur to describe Leo and Kobe over the last few weeks?
Zero. Not once have I even mentioned their name. Im not a shitbag like you.
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Can you explain OMs actions any other way?
Yes, they recruited African American players. Same as every college that plays college football. Your racist analogy is some shite you pulled from ED probably and you should go back there and converse with the like minded people on that board.
Yes they recruited them. They pay them to visit. Pay their parents. Secretly record them "in case they need to be put back in line" then they provide all the weed and spice and hotel rooms necessary to keep them in line. Now they are mad at only the black recruits that dared to defy the rich white alumni.
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Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:45 am to BroomfieldReb
I wouldn't call us the little brother... I would call us the younger brother that grew up to beat that ace when he ran his smarttass mouth 55-20 biatches.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:48 am to yatesdog38
One thing that is very obvious - State fans sure are pretty damn eat up about this lawsuit judging by their obsession over something they are publicly trying to dismiss as "nothing".
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:55 am to Quicksilver
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please take this to the msu team board
FU, take it to the ole miss board!
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:21 am to Cdawg
take it to the egg bowl board
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:38 am to MullenBoys
Man you all are consumed. It is Summer time and there is so much other stuff to talk about and do.
MSU is going to get caught up in this and Ole Miss is already suffering.
Go out and enjoy the sunlight.
MSU is going to get caught up in this and Ole Miss is already suffering.
Go out and enjoy the sunlight.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 11:10 am to Pickle_Weasel
Personally, I take issue with anyone tying up the judicial system with frivolous lawsuits. I also find it interesting that 3 different people (2 recruits and a former player's stepfather) are named along with 15 other possible people and these all occurred under different recruiting cycles. You guys still trying to pursue legislation that allows the NCAA to only investigate for 1 year? I'm sure that also sits well with them. face it bro you guys are F***ed by a big elephant dong.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 11:16 am to yatesdog38
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Personally, I take issue with anyone tying up the judicial system with frivolous lawsuits.
Yeah, that's why MSU folks are up in arms about it, I'm sure.
Nothing frivolous about the lawsuit. One of two things will happen:
1. Lewis and Kobe will publicly recant their statements and issue a public apology
2. Lewis and Kobe will be f*cked when they are sitting in front of a Lafayette County jury and explain conflicting statements that are easily proven to be false.
Make no mistake - the lawsuit has teeth. I personally wish no ill will on those two kids. They're just dumb kids and I think whoever prodded them should be the ones held responsible.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 11:28 am to Pickle_Weasel
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Make no mistake - the lawsuit has teeth.
Again I ask, How do you know that SA#39s testimony has any holes in it?
Read the OM response. There is an entire section explaining how OM was never allowed to interview #39 and when they asked his college coach, they were denied permission. They claim that they weren't even allowed to sit in on 2 of the 3 interviews.
They admit that #39s testimony regarding Allegation #14 is credible and corroborated by other testimony. So he WAS credible, just not in the case of Mr. Merkels client? Even though Mr. Merkel nor OM ever interviewed #39.
This lawsuit will never darken the door of a courthouse, and everybody with an IQ over room temperature knows it.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 11:35 am to Vecchio Cane
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Again I ask, How do you know that SA#39s testimony has any holes in it?
Changes to his timeline, changes to how the contact with the booster took place, and changes to how money was given to him. Also, his mom even calls him out on lying about using money for his kid.
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This lawsuit will never darken the door of a courthouse, and everybody with an IQ over room temperature knows it.
Care to make it interesting? My stance is it either makes it to court, or Lewis recants his story and apologies publicly. If that doesn't happen (meaning Terry has the suite withdrawn without any type of settlement), then you win. Otherwise, I win. Permaban bet?
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 11:37 am
Posted on 6/14/17 at 11:45 am to Pickle_Weasel
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Changes to his timeline, changes to how the contact with the booster took place, and changes to how money was given to him
You really should get your story straight. These supposed inconsistencies would be relevant to Allegation #14. Your lawsuit pertains to Allegation #9. #39 never claimed that a booster gave him money at RR
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Posted on 6/14/17 at 11:52 am to Vecchio Cane
Shows a pattern of lies - very relevant.
You didn't respond to the bet, and I don't blame ya.
You didn't respond to the bet, and I don't blame ya.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 12:02 pm to Pickle_Weasel
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Nothing frivolous about the lawsuit. One of two things will happen:
1. Lewis and Kobe will publicly recant their statements and issue a public apology
2. Lewis and Kobe will be f*cked when they are sitting in front of a Lafayette County jury and explain conflicting statements that are easily proven to be false.
Neither of those things are happening. You forget this is a civil law suit, or you don't know the differences in civil vs criminal cases.
Also, your assumption that the changes in minor details will be seen as pertinent to the core of the case. You additionally assume the minor detail changes make the major allegations false.
Defamation in this case requires proof that the comments were A) false, and B) were the cause of financial harm. Given that the NCAA has long been investigating Ole Miss, your season sucked, your recruiting class sucked, and your immediate future looks bleak, there are any number of factors that could contribute to potential revenue loss. Good luck proving that RR's revenue loss is tied to the private testimony of 3 indiviuals.
Commercial Disparagement would require proof that the testimony of Lewis and Kobe (and Tunsil's step dad) was made for purposes of harming the specific business. Good luck with that one.
Civil Conspiracy is going to require the plaintiff to show evidence that these individuals conspired NOT to bring down Ole Miss, but to cause financial harm to RR. Again, good luck with that one.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 12:05 pm to Pickle_Weasel
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You didn't respond to the bet, and I don't blame ya.
Sure Pickle, I'll bet with you. I've already posted several times that I'm outta here after OM faces their DoomsDay. I don't participate in much else on tRant.
My question is How will the winner of this be determined? Y'all are enamored with Charlie Merkel. Has he ever stood in front of a courthouse and said " Man, we got our asses handed to us"
You're relying on lawyer speak to win your bet. If your guy Terry says that he's satisfied, then you claim victory.
Also, #39 could be proven to be a liar and RR could still lose the case. Mr. Merkel has to prove that #39 and #40 and Mr. Miller intended harm to Rebel Rags
All the defense has to do is throw doubt on the intent. This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 6/14/17 at 12:14 pm to Vecchio Cane
Telling lies is not actionable. Even before a Lafayette County jury.
This is frivolous, vindictive litigation where some poor kids are being used as surrogates for a football program by adults who should know better.
At the end of this exercise, will Ole Miss folks feel better for having supported this type of heavy handed litigation against kids?
This is frivolous, vindictive litigation where some poor kids are being used as surrogates for a football program by adults who should know better.
At the end of this exercise, will Ole Miss folks feel better for having supported this type of heavy handed litigation against kids?
Posted on 6/14/17 at 12:29 pm to bamasgot13
if i had my choice of law schools in the south... bama would be my 1st choice to go to. props for the simplified analysis 
Posted on 6/14/17 at 12:57 pm to bamasgot13
Actually, you are wrong.
Defamation simply includes statements that reflect negatively on a person's integrity, morality, or character. Because the statements can absolutely be proven to be false (due to Lewis taking his lies to the extreme of stating details - individual names, security tags - as well as the businesses ability to provide financial information from their system to disprove the statements). This absolutely falls within defamation.
Commercial Disparagement - I agree that this is something that would be very hard to be proven. However, it could be argued that the intentional actions of defamation leading to the result of loss of revenue could fall within this law. Long shot and doubt it would happen.
Civil Conspiracy - You kind of went off point on this one. If they conspired to knowing make false statements and allegations in any attempt that would harm the reputation and character of the business, then it does not matter if their bigger agenda was another entity. Having said that, I'm curious to see how this would actually be argued.
Having said that, the defamation charge will absolutely stick.
Defamation simply includes statements that reflect negatively on a person's integrity, morality, or character. Because the statements can absolutely be proven to be false (due to Lewis taking his lies to the extreme of stating details - individual names, security tags - as well as the businesses ability to provide financial information from their system to disprove the statements). This absolutely falls within defamation.
Commercial Disparagement - I agree that this is something that would be very hard to be proven. However, it could be argued that the intentional actions of defamation leading to the result of loss of revenue could fall within this law. Long shot and doubt it would happen.
Civil Conspiracy - You kind of went off point on this one. If they conspired to knowing make false statements and allegations in any attempt that would harm the reputation and character of the business, then it does not matter if their bigger agenda was another entity. Having said that, I'm curious to see how this would actually be argued.
Having said that, the defamation charge will absolutely stick.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:02 pm to Vecchio Cane
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You're relying on lawyer speak to win your bet. If your guy Terry says that he's satisfied, then you claim victory.
Victory, none the less right?
Just for clarification, IANAL.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:03 pm to Pickle_Weasel
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Pickle_Weasel
Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:03 pm to Pickle_Weasel
Rebel Rags MUST win this case, if it proceeds. Ole Miss fans better hope it "sticks" before a "friendly" jury, because to an outsider (of which I am one) it seems so venal and vindictive that anything short of a total win (through appeals) will be the well deserved source of embarrassment for OM.
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