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re: This freeze briarcrest thing is BS

Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by BigRDawg17
Member since Jun 2017
197 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:38 pm to
Generalizing christians with a stupid statement shows your ignorance and tells me I'm wasting my time arguing with an idiot.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:39 pm to
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Yep, what else is new on this site



Well it is the south. What do you expect? The biggest takers in the country vote republican because democrats "just give to the takers".
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:40 pm to
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its some anti-Christian liberals just posting stuff


Yeah that's what it is. Sure it's the anti Christian liberals....





frick some of you are just flat out ignorant
Posted by BigRDawg17
Member since Jun 2017
197 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:40 pm to
You actually believe this shite?
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:42 pm to
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Hahahhaa okay guy....



Are you truly so ignorant that you don't know this has been circulating for years? Half the damn state population has known for several years and the rumors haven't been just 2 girls on social media. However. most people like me wrote it off/ignored it until the proof came out that he was in fact a sleaze bag. It's really no wonder they never spoke up. A fricking evangelical private school was never going to believe them over the Right Reverend Freeze and hell most of us nuetrals shrugged our shoulders and said 'who knows, it's HS.'

This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 6:46 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131377 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:42 pm to
Do you know much about Briarcrest?

Ask yourself this one question, "where are the Briarcrest people that are rushing to HF's defense?"

Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:42 pm to
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Oh, aren't you so tough and insightful! There is plenty of room in both heaven and hell...


Derp
Posted by BigRDawg17
Member since Jun 2017
197 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:43 pm to

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Yeah that's what it is. Sure it's the anti Christian liberals.... frick some of you are just flat out ignorant


Posted by BigRDawg17
Member since Jun 2017
197 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:46 pm to
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Half that damn state population has known for several years but most like me wrote it off/ignored it Until the proof came outthat he was in fact a sleaze bag.



Hahahahhaa give me the definition of proof...please?

I can't believe you're this dumb....it's actually scary.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:46 pm to
Calling escorts for one. His firing for two - you have any idea what it takes to get fired under a moral turpitude clause these days? (Hint: More than banging an escort). It's damn near unheard of and a case OM would likely lose in terms of the 'fired for cause/no buyout' issue if it weren't fricking awful.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 6:49 pm
Posted by BigRDawg17
Member since Jun 2017
197 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:47 pm to
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Derp


That's all you've said this whole thread
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46488 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:48 pm to
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I wait til the facts come out before jumping to conclusions


You do realize that the closest thing to fact that you can get in a situation like this where it has been at least 10 years since anything might have happened is the testimony of the individuals involved, right? And that Freeze will probably deny it and multiple girls will say yes it did and if it it goes any further, it'll be in a class action suit wherein it's all about convincing a jury or judge in the absence of physical evidence that one side is right and the other is wrong.

In other words, there is no fact beyond which side has the power and ability to convince the general public.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18063 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:48 pm to
briarcrest freeze as a twitter search is intriguing, but the poster is right - not one tweet from someone defending him.

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131377 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:48 pm to
What kind of proof do you want?

The kind of proof that would make a man resign from a 5 million dollar a year job?

Posted by BigRDawg17
Member since Jun 2017
197 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:50 pm to
Don't run from the conversation, we're talking "clouds over many years" and the briarcrest accusations.

Nice try to spin it though..

Proof of briarcrest accusations? If there's no proof then the logical person would have to assume that this "escort" deal at Ole Miss was freezes first morally wrong thing he did, correct?
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:51 pm to
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In your example, a victim telling an officer what happened to them, under oath or not, is not hearsay. They are giving testimony of their own direct knowledge.


100% false. A victim's account to an officer is the exact definition of hearsay. It's any statement given outside of court. Typically, "hearsay evidence" (victim statement to officer) isn't even admissible in court without the victim being present.

ETA: It is admissible in a grand jury setting in order to indict, but not in a trial setting.

The guy I mentioned earlier in this thread is how I know that to be true. Girl gave a statement to police, they indicted him & arrested him, she refused to go to court, and he walked because her statement was considered "hearsay" and inadmissible.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 6:54 pm
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:52 pm to
What spin? You totally ignored what I said and called me the spinner and it's doubtful you'll address what I said. Are you Bjork/Freeze?
Posted by BigRDawg17
Member since Jun 2017
197 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:53 pm to
You thought the Duke lacrosse players were guilty too, huh?

Or the countless other times a high profile figure was dragged through the mud after the first domino fell only for the accusers to be proved liars...

This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 6:53 pm
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15903 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:53 pm to
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I wait til the facts come out before jumping to conclusions

But you've already concluded the Briarcrest allegations are BS. Your thread title says so.

An Ole Miss fan in the other thread said none if this stuff is made up. Others are saying the rumors are nothing new. We don't know what's true at this point, but there seems to be more to this story than just a bunch of women on Facebook piling on Freeze while he's down.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:53 pm to
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You don't think religion contributed greatly to the advancement of education, historical record keeping, cuisine, art, etc.? Seriously?



Well, let's take Christianity for an example here.

Advance education: Teaching things that are incorrect about the history of earth and where life came from is not "advancing education".

Historical Record Keeping; Hiatorical records were kept long before religious doctrines were written down. Add that to the fact that religious historical records are generally complete fabrications, I'd say we could do just fine without it.

Cuisine: Really? Really? I mean, aside fro Kosher, what else is there?

Art: while religion has been the subject of much art, art still exists without religion. After all, Neanderthals were making art on the walls of caves and they had no real religious beliefs.

Then we have to take into account the Dark Ages. A time when the church was all powerful and advancements in technology and civilization slowed to a crawl.

This is the fundamental problem with religion. Religion is unchangable once its doctrines are set. Science doesn't have that problem. Science can adapt to new infornation and say "we were wrong". Religion can never admit it was wrong.
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