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re: Thinking about the four team playoff, how long until we get to eight?

Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:59 am to
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:59 am to
We just disagree here. Three of the final four have one loss. Five of the top six have one loss with arguments.

I am not saying they got it wrong, but every year this is going to burn at least one conference. It should not take long for expansion talk to grow. I am ambivalent about 4 or 6 or 8.

I just think it is only a matter of time until it expands.
Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
Floating down the Anduin
Member since Dec 2009
12293 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:00 am to
ESPN is already hard at work on 8. Their "What if" graphic:

Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:05 am to
Looking at it, those would be exciting games.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:07 am to
The reason to not go to 8. Why should Bama have to play a shitty MSU in round 1?
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:12 am to
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The reason to not go to 8. Why should Bama have to play a shitty MSU in round 1?


Good warm up game?

I agree that Miss St and MSU are the ones that look out of place, but the other six have valid reasons to want inclusion.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:13 am to
If Missouri had simply won the SECCG and effectively knocked the SEC out of the playoff, the committe would have had to consider expanding to 6 or 8.

But we derped up like usual.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:15 am to
You had no chance, officiating and all.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:20 am to
When more than one Big 5 conference gets left out of the playoff (i.e., one Big 5 conference gets two teams in), the push will start.

In any given year, I believe people can deal with one pissed off conference. Two pissed off conferences make allies, though.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:20 am to
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TxTiger


Moar like TxTRAITOR for leaving the Republic and going full coonass
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:20 am to
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We already have 8, it is called the CCG's

Notice all 4 teams in the playoff won their CCG.


That is inaccurate and willfully ignorant.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:21 am to
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Moar like TxTRAITOR for leaving the Republic and going full coonass


Does an Italian person stop being Italian if he moves to New York?
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:22 am to
Yes
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:23 am to
You have a strange mentality.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:24 am to
8 is perfect and an opportunity for universities to host playoff games at home. The only bad part is that its extra games (for players, this could be a problem) and what will happen to the bowl sites. I'm not really high on what would happen if they extended it to 8, but I would love to see the atmosphere at say Jordan Hare or Bryant-Denny if a team like Ohio State or Baylor came to their stadium for a playoff game. Not only that, the extra $$$ the cities and universities get.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34643 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:43 am to
You'll see a rapid push for change if something like this happens:

Notre Dame goes 12-0
two teams from one conference either SEC or Big 12
Big 1G totally out...

Remember it took the Mulligan Bowl to get away from the BCS...

Delaney and his PAC 12 counterpart were all about protecting their deal with the Rose Bowl, but were rapidly finding their conferences irrelevant in the national college football picture, this is one reason I really like the pairings for the playoff because it breaks up the traditional Rose Bowl pairings...

and to shut Eddie George up...Talahassee is only 20 miles further to Pasadena than Columbus and if you drive, you don't have to worry about snow covered interstates!!!
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:52 am to
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It can't be by conference title. It can't be. Many didn't agree with Alabama making the championship game a few years ago, but damn, they were deserving. Having it just be conference champs can potentially leave out the best teams. You just can't do it.


Then win your conference/division and stop whining.

Bama was not deserving of being in that game. They were the best team on 1/9/12 in a rematch. They were not the best team that year. They did not deserve to be in the game and the whole thing was a farce.

A birth in the National Championship game or Playoff should be based on the body of work, not who might beat who in a single game. Anyone can win on any given Saturday - it doesn't mean that they deserve to play for a championship.

Alabama lost its shot when it lost at home that year and finished second in the SEC West. That is how it should have been. LSU should have played another conference champion, not a rematch against a team it already beat.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:55 am to
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Remember it took the Mulligan Bowl to get away from the BCS...


And before that, it took an LSU-USC split to tweak the BCS. Before that, it took a Michigan-Nebraska split to discard the Boal Coalition. Before that, it took two split championships in a row to institute the Bowl Coalition.

Its a pattern. Something has to go wrong for real change to occur. I'm not sure this year qualifies by that criteria.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 9:56 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:55 am to
Perfect example this year. Michigan State, sitting at 8, has already lost to two of the top four teams. They have no business being in the discussion. Period. End of story.

2 teams having a bye is too much of an advantage, so no to a 6 team playoff.

If you go to 6, then #7 and 8 will bitch. If you go to 8, then #9 and #10 will bitch. Someone will always bitch. Keep it at 4, let #5 and 6 bitch, but at least you have four teams that are truly worthy of playing for a national championship.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:57 am to
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Then win your conference/division and stop whining.

Bama was not deserving of being in that game. They were the best team on 1/9/12 in a rematch. They were not the best team that year. They did not deserve to be in the game and the whole thing was a farce.

A birth in the National Championship game or Playoff should be based on the body of work, not who might beat who in a single game. Anyone can win on any given Saturday - it doesn't mean that they deserve to play for a championship.

Alabama lost its shot when it lost at home that year and finished second in the SEC West. That is how it should have been. LSU should have played another conference champion, not a rematch against a team it already beat.


So much stupidity in that post, it's hard to know where to begin to respond.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54623 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:57 am to
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That is inaccurate and willfully ignorant.


If you really think that then you may be beyond hope. 2 conferences run college football and everybody else just sides with 1 or the other like remoras on a shark.
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