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re: The SEC Title Game and Venues: Thoughts About Rotating
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:30 am to Rig
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:30 am to Rig
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So let me get this straight... You think there are a lot of fans in the state of Texas that aren't fans of any school in Texas but would like college football enough to watch the SEC Championship? Keep dreaming Arky fan.
I'll slow this down for you; I forgot there are Auburn fans who have the site read to them here.
There are solid alumni bases for many SEC schools in Texas, moreso in the Dallas metro, arguably, than anywhere outside the traditional SEC footprint.
SEC fans travel well, on top of that-- Dallas is among the most accessible cities in the world, including low cost carrier flights.
Throw in the best venue possible for any game, and it becomes not only a logical case, but a compelling one for a rotating SEC CG.
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:34 am to deaux68
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Not as many as the Superdome.
Superdome with new renovations>>>>>>GA Dome
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:36 am to Gtiger9757
Went to it a few weeks ago and was shocked...they did an awesome job!
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:38 am to Rig
If you leave Atlanta and start rotating my guess is the new ACC 14/16 will pounce on it and agree to make it their permanent location for a championship game. Tampa is so far from most ACC schools and their fanbases being what they are, the trip is too much for them, Atlanta would be a HUGE upgrade for them and they would certainly pay a lot for it.
Moving the game to Jerry World is stupid. Whether you SEC west people with short memories want it or not, the SEC still has an Eastern division and a trip to Dallas is a fricking long drive for EVERY East team. There is a reason the Cotton Bowl pretty much only takes teams from the SEC west.
NO and the superdome might be okay, but really, the Sugar bowl already has ties, and diversity is the spice of life.
Also as UF has not only won the most championships since expansion, and been to Atlanta the most often, you west teams bitching about your once every 6 year drive need to suck it up.
Moving the game to Jerry World is stupid. Whether you SEC west people with short memories want it or not, the SEC still has an Eastern division and a trip to Dallas is a fricking long drive for EVERY East team. There is a reason the Cotton Bowl pretty much only takes teams from the SEC west.
NO and the superdome might be okay, but really, the Sugar bowl already has ties, and diversity is the spice of life.
Also as UF has not only won the most championships since expansion, and been to Atlanta the most often, you west teams bitching about your once every 6 year drive need to suck it up.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:38 am to BoardReader
Ark and LSU fans seem to be the only people opposed to having the game in Atlanta.
10 > 2
10 > 2
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:05 pm to attheua
I am in favor of keeping it in Atlanta. It is kind of like a bowl game and has become tradition to be there. N.O. is a fantastic city and I love the Superdome, but the SEC champs usually end up in the Sugar Bowl (or BCS championship game which is there 1/4 of the time).
The biggest reason though is geography. In one of the other threads on this topic someone did the math. Average driving distance of all 12 SEC schools:
To Atlanta: 300 miles
To New Orleans: 468 miles
To Dallas: 691 miles
IMO, that should end the debate right there. Really, the only city that might make more geographic sense is Birmingham (the original location), but Legion Field sucks and who wants to visit B'ham.
The biggest reason though is geography. In one of the other threads on this topic someone did the math. Average driving distance of all 12 SEC schools:
To Atlanta: 300 miles
To New Orleans: 468 miles
To Dallas: 691 miles
IMO, that should end the debate right there. Really, the only city that might make more geographic sense is Birmingham (the original location), but Legion Field sucks and who wants to visit B'ham.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:09 pm to attheua
Not opposed to it being in ATL. As I recall, LSU hasn't done too badly in the GA Dome.
HOWEVER, if its decided the game will rotate, the Superdome should be considered.
HOWEVER, if its decided the game will rotate, the Superdome should be considered.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:19 pm to BoardReader
Mileage from SEC schools to:
Atlanta, Georgia
Alabama (202.45) 3 hrs 19 min
Arkansas (699.50) 11 hrs 10 min
Auburn (108.18) 1 hr 47 min
Florida (335.39) 5 hr 16 min
Georgia ( 70.75) 1 hr 24
Kentucky (382.52) 6 hr 6 min
LSU (525.71) 8 hr 3 min
Mississippi (332.08) 5 hr 37 min
Mississippi St. (285.15) 4 hr 49min
South Carolina (214.65) 3 hr 22 min
Tennessee (214.12) 3 hr 29 min
Vanderbilt (249.24) 4 hr 4 min
*Texas A&M (858.48) 13 hr 40 min
Dallas, Texas
Alabama (588.81) 8 hr 59 min
Arkansas (333.07) 5 hr 24 min
Auburn (705.32) 11 hr 14 min
Florida (990.32) 15 hr 38 min
Georgia (856.89) 13 hr 33 min
Kentucky (875.34) 13 hr 26 min
LSU (443.17) 6 hr 53 min
Mississippi ((536.78) 8 hr 21 min
Mississippi St. (532.48) 8 hr 34 min
South Carolina (990.32) 15 hr 30 min
Tennessee (843.90) 12 hr 59 min
Vanderbilt (664.80) 10 hr 13 min
*Texas A&M (182.01) 3 hr 4 min
*maybe
Except for Arkansas, LSU, and maybe TA&M, the majority of the SEC schools are closer to Atlanta, Georgia.
The best and most central place would be Birmingham, Alabama, when they build a covered stadium.
Atlanta, Georgia
Alabama (202.45) 3 hrs 19 min
Arkansas (699.50) 11 hrs 10 min
Auburn (108.18) 1 hr 47 min
Florida (335.39) 5 hr 16 min
Georgia ( 70.75) 1 hr 24
Kentucky (382.52) 6 hr 6 min
LSU (525.71) 8 hr 3 min
Mississippi (332.08) 5 hr 37 min
Mississippi St. (285.15) 4 hr 49min
South Carolina (214.65) 3 hr 22 min
Tennessee (214.12) 3 hr 29 min
Vanderbilt (249.24) 4 hr 4 min
*Texas A&M (858.48) 13 hr 40 min
Dallas, Texas
Alabama (588.81) 8 hr 59 min
Arkansas (333.07) 5 hr 24 min
Auburn (705.32) 11 hr 14 min
Florida (990.32) 15 hr 38 min
Georgia (856.89) 13 hr 33 min
Kentucky (875.34) 13 hr 26 min
LSU (443.17) 6 hr 53 min
Mississippi ((536.78) 8 hr 21 min
Mississippi St. (532.48) 8 hr 34 min
South Carolina (990.32) 15 hr 30 min
Tennessee (843.90) 12 hr 59 min
Vanderbilt (664.80) 10 hr 13 min
*Texas A&M (182.01) 3 hr 4 min
*maybe
Except for Arkansas, LSU, and maybe TA&M, the majority of the SEC schools are closer to Atlanta, Georgia.
The best and most central place would be Birmingham, Alabama, when they build a covered stadium.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:22 pm to BoardReader
I will say this, Atlanta sucks as a travel destination for football games. Jerryworld kind of sucks too. Just nothing to do around there. In New Orleans and Nashville, you can walk righjt out of the game and into the bars, mmuch more fun to travel too.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:25 pm to bee Rye
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In New Orleans and Nashville, you can walk righjt out of the game and into the bars,
Don't want New Orleans and Nashville will have to get a domed stadium before it's even considered. Would be much colder in December.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:25 pm to jatebe
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The best and most central place would be Birmingham, Alabama, when they build a covered stadium.
Ain't gonna happen. The only way I see the game moving would be on a rotation basis. It won't move permanently from Atlanta to Birmingham.
ETA: Besides, the game has a bowl-like feeling to it. There is nothing special about the atmosphere in Birmingham. Do not want.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:35 pm to ibldprplgld
The game makes sense in Atlanta. If the game leaves they will fill the void with the ACC and who knows if we can get it back.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:40 pm to ibldprplgld
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Ain't gonna happen. The only way I see the game moving would be on a rotation basis. It won't move permanently from Atlanta to Birmingham.
ETA: Besides, the game has a bowl-like feeling to it. There is nothing special about the atmosphere in Birmingham. Do not want.
I agree. Birmingham screwed the pooch when they let Legion Field fall apart and with all the slums around it.
If Birmingham had built a good domed stadium and bought out the slums to put up bars and good restaurants and boutiques around the stadium, the game probably would have stayed there.
The last time I visited Legion Field I was with my teenage daughter. It was dark and scary and too dangerous for two females to be walking around in that neighborhood. I swore I would never go back.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:43 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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only fan base that bitches is...LSU.
Arkansas fans complain about it too. Wonder why it's no problem for the UGA fans.
Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston are all in play. I'm okay with no New Orleans because the winner would have to go back there. But several losers of the SEC Championship game have also had to go back to Atlanta for the Peach Bowl.
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