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re: The SEC East was not Down Last Year.......
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:56 pm to RamboMizzou
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:56 pm to RamboMizzou
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Why some of your comments taking away form Mizzou, South Carolina, Georgia, and hell even Vandy's success are completely ridiculous:
UGA fans don't consider last season successful in the slightest.
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Mizzou beat a Georgia team on their field that came close to knocking off Clemson, beat South Carolina handily, knocked off LSU(frickers) and came within a miracle away from beating Auburn, who won the SEC.
A top 3 player in the SEC and/or his back up played in all 3 of those games. Our #2 and #3 receiver played in two out of the 3. None of those guys played against Mizzou.
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Mizzou beat Texas A&M, by the same margin that Alabama beat A&M by.
On the home vs. in an amped up Kyle field (impressive win nonetheless)
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Ole Miss, a team that Mizzou beat on their field, beat the LSU team that is discounting everything that anything the East did
Good point.
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South Carolina beat UCF on their field, Florida came close to beating LSU as well
SEC teams should never celebrate beating UCF. Coming close to beating someone doesn't count. And it wasn't that close.
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South Carolina and Mizzou finished in the Top 5. First time that the SEC East has ever had that happen. The SEC East had tied for the most teams in the Top 25 in its existence
Very impressive. But neither team had to play Bama, LSU or Auburn until the SECCG and we know how that turned out.
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Even though Florida had a rough season, they played every team close. SC, Georgia, LSU, and so on. That Georgia Southern loss was just a result when a team has several close losses to big teams in a row.
4-8. That's atrocious regardless of anything else.
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South Carolina was able to dismantle Clemson, Mizzou was able to beat Oklahoma State, Vandy was able to give SC as much as they could. Ole Miss was able to destroy Texas which in return got beat by Mizzou handily on their own field.
Clemson wasn't good. They got murdered by FSU. OK State lost to WVU who was terrible. Vandy was up last year no doubt. Got smoked by A&M though. Don't understand point about Texas.
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Mizzou and South Carolina would have finished 2nd in the SEC West. Only team that could reign supreme is Auburn. It was their year. Even Auburn could barely beat SEC East opponents. Needing a miracle against Georgia and being down in the 4th quarter to Mizzou.
Mizzou and South Carolina would have finished 3rd in the west at best. Bama and Auburn were both better.
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Point is, you all are full on stupid to discount the season that the East had last year. LSU would have finished 4th at best in the SEC East. FACT. Ole Miss would have fought off Vandy for the 5th spot. FACT. Alabama would have had to fought SC, Mizzou, and Georgia off. FACT. You could make the statement that Georgia played Auburn better than ALABAMA.
East wasn't good. Lost so many starting quarterbacks throughout the season. If it would have happened in the west people would have said the West was down. Most of your points here are valid. But Georgia did not play Auburn better than Bama. Bama was winning the whole time and lost because their special teams and decision making were poor. UGA was getting trounced almost the entire game before we made up a ton of ground in the final quarter. I think you could argue we were closer to beating Auburn, but I don't think there is any question that Bama played them better.
Hope I helped explain why the East was down Rambo so we don't have to see you complain about it. Mizzou was a great football team last year and deserved to win the west, but any time the combined records of UF, UGA, and UT are 17-20, it is probably a down year.
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:08 pm to RamboMizzou
Not only are you using the transitive property but you're basing a whole argument for the east on the transitive property. Congrats on the most irrelevant argument ever.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:13 pm to mjw60532
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t any time the combined records of UF, UGA, and UT are 17-20, it is probably a down year.
Its literally impossible to have many of you see the truth through the "bias" of the not having UF UGA ir TN have a "good" season.
2010 was a down year. The division winner was only ranked #22. You had traditional top division teams fall down and the other teams not good enough to take advantage.
2013 wasnt down, not by logically looking at the facts with two teams in the top 5, compare that to historical numbers of ranked teams in the east per year, and one team a game away from the national championship game.
The problem,again, is that the strength of the division didnt come from teams folks are used to, that doesnt make that strenght any less a matter of fact.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:19 pm to kilo
The traditionalists think the East can't be good if UT is down. I don't know if UT will ever be as good as they were in the 90s again - or ever nationally relevant again for multiple years consecutively. It's unlikely IMO. So, those same traditionalists will continue to trot the narrative out there.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:21 pm to MenloDawg
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The traditionalists think the East can't be good if UT is down. I don't know if UT will ever be as good as they were in the 90s again - or ever nationally relevant again for multiple years consecutively. It's unlikely IMO. So, those same traditionalists will continue to trot the narrative out there.
Yea, who knows. I think they could get back but things are different for them now with a lot more teams able to recruit in the areas they traditionally recruit. Coaching has been a huge problem for them though and a good hire could get them back in the hunt. National caliber teams year in a year out, yea, thats unlikely.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:23 pm to PortCityTiger82
LSU is down. As down as Scrooster's ball sack
LSU's new slogan is yeah we're fourth, but it's the toughest division in CFB
LSU's new slogan is yeah we're fourth, but it's the toughest division in CFB
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:28 pm to MenloDawg
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The traditionalists think the East can't be good if UT is down. I don't know if UT will ever be as good as they were in the 90s again - or ever nationally relevant again for multiple years consecutively. It's unlikely IMO. So, those same traditionalists will continue to trot the narrative out there.
I was originally just going to include UGA and UF, but decided to include UT as well. I think people just used the eye test and thought the east didn't play as great of football last year. It's hard to blame them though. Every single SEC East starting quarterback missed at least one game last year I think. When all of the teams are injury ravaged, especially UF and UGA, people aren't going to think it is as good of a league as it normally is. It shouldn't take away from Mizzou's SEC East title though. They did what they needed to in every situation to win that title.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:28 pm to RamboMizzou
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The SEC East was not Down Last Year.......
Damn son, your new around here so I will learn you something. Any year that Auburn wins the SEC is a down year for the whole conference and any poster of another fan base will tell you that. SEC was down in 04, 10 and 13, no other years
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:28 pm to kilo
Georgia had the injury bug last season, UF had a tough go at it, and UT was down as usual. I don't really consider USC, Mizzou, and a slightly above average Vandy to be a very strong east. Not saying UGA was bad by any means but I don't think you'll find many of there fans saying they were satisfied with their season either. The East might not have been down but it wasn't exactly up either. If you want to use the transitive property, we beat A&M by a larger margin than Mizzou or Bama but that doesn't mean anything really. Styles make games.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:32 pm to RamboMizzou
The east is down if 2 of Tennessee, UF and UGA are not nationally relevant.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:32 pm to mjw60532
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people aren't going to think it is as good of a league as it normally is.
People can think whatever they want but I posted the list of number of ranked teams per years since the divisions started in 1992.
2013 was in the top 1/4 as far a strenght. In fact, it was the first time in over 10 years and only the 4th time total the East had two teams in the top 5 nationally.
If folks are gonna say that 2013 was down they are gonna be sad when over 3/4's of the years the SEC east was in existence it was "down".
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:36 pm to kilo
Final rankings can be a bit deceiving.
No way 2013 S. Carolina and Mizzou were on the same level as 90s Tennessee/UF or mid-2000s UF and UGA in terms of talent.
No way 2013 S. Carolina and Mizzou were on the same level as 90s Tennessee/UF or mid-2000s UF and UGA in terms of talent.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:37 pm to kilo
Son you can't be using that logical crap here on the rant
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:38 pm to PortCityTiger82
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I don't really consider USC, Mizzou,
Thats the problem. Strength is relative. Just because it wasn't UF and UGA doesn't mean the East was down. If you all are just trolling, I get that play but if you are arguing from a logical standpoint, well, it just doesn't pass the test.
Im not using transitive property either. Im basing the assessment on the entire body of work as rated nationally.
A perfect example of a "down" year was 2010. The whole division was down. A 9 win team won the East and was the only ranked team in the division. There are other years where the division only had one ranked team.
Folks can ignore facts because of nostalgia and tradition, thats fine, no skin off my nose. Dont expect someone to take that opinion very logically or seriously when the facts fly in the face of that opinion.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:45 pm to RamboMizzou
If Tennessee is down then the SEC east is down.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:46 pm to kilo
The final rankings were right. SC and Mizzou would have beaten bama 2 out of 3 times and LSU 3 out of 4.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:47 pm to kilo
this decade the west has been a little stronger than the east
it was the other way around in the 90's
the swing will come back around
it was the other way around in the 90's
the swing will come back around
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:47 pm to RamboMizzou
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Mizzou and South Carolina would have finished 2nd in the SEC West
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:48 pm to MIZ_COU
Our defense is geared to stop offenses like yours. Like I said styles make games and I don't think Mizzou matches up very well with us.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:49 pm to kilo
It has nothing to do with what teams it is. Two teams does not make a strong east. Period.
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