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The NCAA should allow pay for play

Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:50 am
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:50 am
Players getting paid is as free market as it gets. (Kind of ironic coming from a commie state like California)

A compromise would be to pay players a reasonable amount of money but put a cap on how much a player/team can receive each season to even out the playing field for smaller budget schools.

4 million per team with no player allowed to receive more than 40k per season seems incredibly doable.

Everyone just assumes you’ll have players getting million dollar contracts which I agree would be absurd especially for players who could end up being busts.

On the flip side we all know players who should have been paid big in the NFL that suffered career altering injuries in college who never got compensated for their play.
Posted by Sancho Panza
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:54 am to
How are you going to pay all the other athletes?
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:57 am to
I just asked an attorney friend of mine about this and he said 2 words Title IX.

I knew that shite was gonna bite everybody in the arse

Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:58 am to
You think this ends with paying just football players?

Some of you will never learn.

And what happens when a player transfers?
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:59 am to
Bingo.

The state of California doesn’t care about paying players. They care about destroying yet another institution.
Posted by Rip N Lip
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Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:01 am to
I guess you've missed the recent SJW ads from Nike & ESPN about "muh equal pay"?
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:03 am to
I said it in the other thread so I texted my buddy. Thankfully he was up and responded. He says Cali can pass the law but when a woman athlete feels slighted and takes it to court you think the state government is gonna pay the settlements
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:04 am to
Even if you get beyond all of the insanity regarding contracts and the like, the people who continue to say this don't understand:

All they will do is say, okay, let's check out your paycheck:

Just for the sake of argument, how much do you guys think Dan Mullen would charge to mentor a Quarterback, one on one? I'm going to say it'd probably be in the ballpark of a couple million.

After that, what about lodging, food access to hospitals? Probably a lot of money.

Scholarship? At Florida it's a lot.

Connections to the NFL as well as programs just in case you don't make it? Almost can't have a price put on it.

We're not even getting into facilities (bought and paid for by the university) and the rest of the coaching staff -- nutritionists, S&C, general sports consultants.

So what's going to happen? They're going to come to the negotiating table, thinking about all of this money that they're going to be making and then they're going to see how much they have to pay the school to partake in all of these benefits -- and it will be zero.

And every school will make sure it is zero.

People who want these athletes to be paid don't understand that they're already making millions of dollars without even realizing what they've got access to. If you go to a smaller school where you don't have access to these things -- pity, you should focus on your education.
Posted by Rip N Lip
Horseshoe Bend
Member since Jul 2019
5274 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:10 am to
quote:

StrawsDrawnAtRandom


Excellent post.

Posted by Stunna Tide
Member since Sep 2019
811 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:14 am to
quote:

Players getting paid is as free market as it gets. (Kind of ironic coming from a commie state like California)

A compromise would be to pay players a reasonable amount of money but put a cap on how much a player/team can receive each season to even out the playing field for smaller budget schools.

4 million per team with no player allowed to receive more than 40k per season seems incredibly doable.


Does this mean Bama gone be buyin' up all the good players?

I guess details like retirement plans and insurance coverage can be worked out at a later date. I wonder if the insurance will cover the whole family or just the employee?

Notify me when the first strike happens for mo' money. Bama will send in strike busters while the other teams get punked out for bigger salaries.

One good thing is that the employees will be required to work 40 hrs. a week. That is really going to help the workers develop into better athletes. Overtime pay will probably be great.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 1:22 am
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7653 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:30 am to
How long do we think Ole Miss will field an athletic program of any kind if the school has to bid for athletes in an open market, or Mississippi State, or Vanderbilt? Even with caps, for which professional sports leagues have antitrust exemption, the political climate may force schools to treat all athletes, stars or not, revenue sports athletes or not, equally on pay. The argument that the market will determine which athletes should be paid and which should not will not survive the onslaught of demand that women should be equally compensated. Just remember Title IX. Paying college athletes will ultimately end college athletics as we know it. The unintended consequences will see to it.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 1:32 am
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
54093 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:31 am to
quote:

He says Cali can pass the law but when a woman athlete feels slighted and takes it to court you think the state government is gonna pay the settlements


No. They won't. It will be the university.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7653 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:32 am to
If it is a public university, it will ultimately be the state that pays.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
54093 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:33 am to
Why yes..... YES it does!



Posted by Hailstate15
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Member since Nov 2018
21466 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:42 am to
only a lib reb would see this as a good idea. it does nothing but RUIN college athletics.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7653 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:46 am to
Until it doesn’t. Most schools will drop sports once they cannot afford to compete because they cannot pay the market price. Sports will essentially become club level sports like rugby, purely voluntary and no scholarships. Maybe that would actually be good, but I don’t think society as it now exists will tolerate disparities in compensation between college sports, and especially between the sexes. Again remember how Title IX came into being. But for athlete pay to be even remotely successful, those disparities would be necessary, but they will likely not be permitted, thus killing off most sports now existing and eliminating scholarship sports entirely at many schools.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 1:48 am
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
64260 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 6:04 am to
You forgot medical attention.

Lets say you fall and get hurt at your job. Your insurance must pay for any surgery related things that go with that. Players now get the best medical attention there is and its all paid for by the program.

I dont agree with paying them. There are just too many bad things that can happen from it


Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16931 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 6:32 am to
quote:

A compromise would be to pay players a reasonable amount of money but put a cap on how much a player/team can receive each season to even out the playing field for smaller budget schools.


Most schools lose money on athletics already. You would effectively be killing college sports.
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4862 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 6:36 am to
The only way to get around tittle 9 is to give them a percentage of jersey sales.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24462 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 6:37 am to
The backlash from academics and other students against this is gonna be huge. Right now it’s mostly an issue discussed on espn, once it’s front a center and professors/staff learn that players are gonna make more than them in some cases. That female athletes aren’t gonna get paid any or as much. And students find out that not only are these kids getting into school without the academic resume to do so and getting paid..you’ll have near riots on some campuses
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