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re: The best solution to player-pay controversy?
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:04 am to TheLoupGarou
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:04 am to TheLoupGarou
I agree. If they want to get paid - go form a league and see who buys tickets.
If all these superstar-wannabes left the D1 ranks and formed a league, I'd still be going to watch a "lesser-talented" college game and not their superstar-minor league game.
If all these superstar-wannabes left the D1 ranks and formed a league, I'd still be going to watch a "lesser-talented" college game and not their superstar-minor league game.
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:04 am to BoCam2
The NCAA doesn't have to do anything. They don't have a monopoly on football. Anybody can set up a league for 18 - 21 year olds. If it makes money, then hey, great for them.
College football won't suffer. There will still be many, many good football players that don't think they have a legitimate shot at making the NFL and want to get an education participating in NCAAF. There will also be a good many that do have NFL potential, but want to hedge the risk of not getting there with a free education.
The players have zero leverage here.
College football won't suffer. There will still be many, many good football players that don't think they have a legitimate shot at making the NFL and want to get an education participating in NCAAF. There will also be a good many that do have NFL potential, but want to hedge the risk of not getting there with a free education.
The players have zero leverage here.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:05 am to Politiceaux
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Right, but what is more unjust: the talent pool for your favorite college football team being diluted or incredibly talented people never being able to make a dime from their talent due to an injury sustained while going through the amateur sports song and dance?
I'm not arguing totally against players being paid. I just see this as an even worse idea than having some way of paying players under the current system. I'm for pville's suggestion of letting players profit (up to a certain extent while in college) and fully once they leave college. The schools still get most of the money but the player gets a lot of money as well off of jersey sales, autographs, etc.
Creating a developmental league is just a bad idea imho. College basketball isn't anywhere near as good with the 1 and done rule as it was 20 and 30 years ago without it.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:06 am to stat19
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If all these superstar-wannabes left the D1 ranks and formed a league, I'd still be going to watch a "lesser-talented" college game and not their superstar-minor league game.
I agree. Yes, there may be less "sidewalk fans", but I, for one, would still follow and go to Alabama games even if we played with scrubs.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:08 am to Govt Tide
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College basketball isn't anywhere near as good with the 1 and done rule as it was 20 and 30 years ago without it.
That is because basketball sucks. Football is the only real sport. Don't you know this?
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:08 am to Govt Tide
quote:Oh I completely agree that college basketball is garbage for the most part. And I also agree that this would hurt college football - it doesn't take a genius to figure that out. I guess the question is what is more important: pre-NFL football being better for college fans or for the players?
Creating a developmental league is just a bad idea imho. College basketball isn't anywhere near as good with the 1 and done rule as it was 20 and 30 years ago without it.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:11 am to Politiceaux
They already get a stipend. Thats why this is getting out of hand. If an athlete at LSU on a full ride choses to live off campus, the get around 1,800 a month(thats how it was from 07-10, it is different based on where the school is located as well). So lets assume your rent is 600, that leaves you with 1,200 a month to do whatever you want.
ETA: Trust me, none of us were struggling. Why do you think all the athletes have scooters? It is because what else are we going to spend all that money on
ETA: Trust me, none of us were struggling. Why do you think all the athletes have scooters? It is because what else are we going to spend all that money on
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:12 am to TheLoupGarou
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What are your thoughts?
I think it's brilliant.
The NFL won't want an 18 year old kid on their teams. So a minor league will get started.
But let's not forget that the vast majority of these high school seniors have parents that are pushing the college degree. They have access to a free education. A free chance at a degree in whatever field they want.
I guarantee many five star and four star players will still go to college because Mama convinced them to go for the degree over the money.
And that would be the smart move.
Then the minor leagues will die off because the top talent will see that college football is still the best place to train for the NFL.
The problem then still is, how do you stop boosters and agents from paying players?
Honestly, until legislation gets involved, it'll never stop. Until agents, boosters, AND the athletes receiving the money are punished and placed in jail or fined, it will never stop.
This post was edited on 9/26/13 at 9:13 am
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:12 am to CrimsonCoast
I know your joking around but in all seriousness SEC basketball was hugely popular in the 80s and throughout much of the 90s before the 1 and done rule and the proliferation of the NBA developmental league. There were tons of great memorable players throughout the SEC back then. Now you'd be hardpressed to name more than a couple transcendent players at each SEC school other than maybe Kentucky and Florida. They were everywhere 20 and 30 years ago.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:18 am to IAmReality
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What they do outside of school is their business.
This it the core issue
If a kid goes to school and does acting or singing they can get paid because it is not sports.
If a kid goes to school and starts a business they can get paid because it is not sports.
The issue is not that they get paid. The real issue is they would get paid to play sports. The difference between sports and everything else college kids can make money on is GAMBLING. Remember the NCAA was a paper tiger and did not go after schools vs players. The power of the NCAA is rooted in the point shaving scandal and the mob's influence over east coast sports.
The problem today is folks under 50 view this as schools vs players while folks over 50 probably remember the old days when it was schools vs organized crime. Opening the floodgate of playing played directly or indirectly opens the floodgates to greater influence by big time gambling and gambling interests.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:37 am to townhallsavoy
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I guarantee many five star and four star players will still go to college because Mama convinced them to go for the degree over the money
LOL, this is a joke right?
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:38 am to PrivatePublic
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LOL, this is a joke right?
No.
I worked in an SEC college recruiting office for three years. Sure there will be a few that are greedy and want the money, but the majority of big time athletes have parents that are excited about their son's chance to earn a college degree. It's a way to better their lives. Most of these kids come from low income and rough areas, and their parents aren't all greedy money grabbing people.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 10:01 am to TheLoupGarou
You do realize Delany is only being facetious don't you ?
No family is going to allow their kids to play minor league football WHICH NO ONE will go to see ,
and Delaney knows this.
Say an acadamy sets up in Birmingham , you think I am going to tune into or go see minor league football ? Get real.
My idea is better , allow boosters from a university to set a kid up with 75 to 100k in his bank account, as long as he did not get a pro contract and as long as he graduated without bringing ill repute to his university.
Give the kids that didn't make it but graduated a head start in life.
No family is going to allow their kids to play minor league football WHICH NO ONE will go to see ,
and Delaney knows this. Say an acadamy sets up in Birmingham , you think I am going to tune into or go see minor league football ? Get real.
My idea is better , allow boosters from a university to set a kid up with 75 to 100k in his bank account, as long as he did not get a pro contract and as long as he graduated without bringing ill repute to his university.
Give the kids that didn't make it but graduated a head start in life.
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