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re: Texas and Oklahoma...SEC stadiums vs Big 12 "stadiums"
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:06 am to PerrillouxToTexas
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:06 am to PerrillouxToTexas
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We’re going to get the cowbells banned
Good luck with that.
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:07 am to Govt Tide
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If nothing else you guys will get to experience big boy in conference road environments for a change although Texas fans will only have two opportunities for that next year.
Difference is for all those SEC "big boy" stadiums" is they finally get to see a real "big boy" visiting team aside form Bama, Georgia and LSU. All the remaining SEC teams are coattail riders.
Texas and OU are going to make a lot of SEC chest pounders very unhappy next season.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:07 am to Govt Tide
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There are currently 7 stadiums with capacities of 88,000+ in the SEC which is over 26,500+ larger than the largest true road environment either Texas or Oklahoma experience in conference in a given year. That doesn't mean either team will lose an extra road game each year though because there are other factors that others have mentioned that determine whether a team wins or loses on the road.
Tejas has played three true road games in stadiums with 80,000+ capacity in the past ten seasons. Bama did that in 2022 alone.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:09 am to VolSquatch
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This is such an overrated narrative.
Utah holds like 60k people and was a tough environment for Florida week 1.
At UT we've had almost 100k people not be very engaged past the first quarter because the team wasn't good.
If you have a good team and the fans are engaged for the entire game, you can create a tough environment.
For every guy that gets nervous in front of a larger crowd, theres another that gets amped up.
I have had the distinct pleasure of attending several games at DKR and it is a great venue. It is not a great crowd. Its a big crowd. Not great. UGA had the same issues before Mark Richt was hired. UGA games were social gatherings where the university was kind enough to provide some athletic competition on the football field for the viewing enjoyment of the crowd while they discussed the peanut crop and the local doings in Hahira. Texas games have exactly the same feel, of did up until a few years ago, in my experience. I have also been to TT, Baylor and TCU games...and they are exactly the same. A UGA / UK game today is VASTLY different than anything I have seen in any of the Big 12 stadiums I have been too. I know its all dependent on opponent and how well the home teams is doing but there is a distinct difference....and UGA is not the best home crowd in the SEC yet....
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:11 am to Govt Tide
Doubt anyone is reading all that but these posts are so dumb. I said the same thing before Texas came in and beat Bama this year. Is is true that the SEC is a grind, more so than other conferences, but they will adjust and be fine.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:13 am to Govt Tide
Oh noez!!! 
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:14 am to Govt Tide
Oklahoma gets everyone best shot it’s always been like that …. Every road game is like playing in the superbowl for those teams we are use to it ….
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:15 am to VolSquatch
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Utah holds like 60k people and was a tough environment for Florida week 1.
SBBS (Sun Belt Billy Syndrome)
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:17 am to AwgustaDawg
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It is not a great crowd. Its a big crowd.
I’d agree with this. DKR is more of a professional environment than many SEC stadiums. Corporations entertaining clients, etc. Plus, the student body isn’t as into college football.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:19 am to gamecockman12
And what is it about that stadium picture that's supposed to scare anybody because its a "tough environment"? Firecrackers? Marching band on the field? light show? 77,000 in attendance?
Wooooow.......everybody has that.
Wooooow.......everybody has that.
This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 9:25 am
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:35 am to Homesick Tiger
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61,000 cowbells might change your mind.
It won't.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:39 am to AwgustaDawg
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I have had the distinct pleasure of attending several games at DKR and it is a great venue. It is not a great crowd. Its a big crowd.
https://www.si.com/college/texas/football/longhorns-alabama-crimson-tide-will-anderson-nick-saban-crowd-noise
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It was so loud in fact that even the Alabama players such as Will Anderson, who consistently faces the loudest environments in the country in the SEC from week to week said it was one of the loudest stadiums they have ever played in.
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"To be honest, since I've been here these last three years, this is probably the loudest environment I've played in," Anderson said. "Probably the hardest game I've played in since I've been in college football. Their fans were super loud, they had a lot of energy. But the atmosphere was crazy."
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:39 am to Monsusta
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Difference is for all those SEC "big boy" stadiums" is they finally get to see a real "big boy" visiting team aside form Bama, Georgia and LSU. All the remaining SEC teams are coattail riders.
Texas and OU are going to make a lot of SEC chest pounders very unhappy next season.
I have no doubt both Texas and OU will have a lot of success in the SEC including in some of the toughest SEC road environments and will compete for SEC titles almost every year.
I do think the larger SEC road environments will be more difficult to win at for them though. Case in point...I'll point to the 2003 Oklahoma @ Alabama game as an example of a road environment that clearly had an effect in a game that Alabama had no business competing in. Alabama was an awful 4-9 team that season while Oklahoma came in as the #1 ranked team in the country that game but needed a ballsy successful fake punt to escape with a 20-13 win.
That was an Oklahoma team that went 8-0 in the conference that regular season against Big 12 opponents outscoring their conference opponents by an average of 42 ppg and 30 ppg on the road. I realize that's a single isolated game that and maybe Alabama played way above its head that one game while that could have been Oklahoma's one stinker game during the regular season so it may have been a one off. That same Oklahoma team did get taken apart by Kansas State in the Big 12 championship too so who knows but they did breeze through their regular season schedule that season.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:43 am to Govt Tide
LOL
Oklahoma didn't win 20-13 in Tuscaloosa in 2003 because your crowd was too loud.
Oklahoma didn't win 20-13 in Tuscaloosa in 2003 because your crowd was too loud.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:44 am to Govt Tide
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Govt Tide
Why write such long posts to say, “Here, it just means more”?
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:44 am to Govt Tide
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Case in point...I'll point to the 2003 Oklahoma @ Alabama game as an example of a road environment that clearly had an effect in a game
This is college football. Nothing is more volatile than the mindset of young men in their late teens & early 20s. OU was a top 10 team this year, with everything on the line, and lost in front of 48,000 people in Kansas.
SEC fans need to divorce themselves from this 'magical thinking' related to their stadiums and environments. People fear teams like Bama & UGA because of their players & coaches.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:47 am to Govt Tide
quote:So they got a sweetheart deal by playing in the biggest stadium in the conference and in another stadium full of people that hate them more than any other team they play?
You got a sweetheart conference road schedule in 2024 only having to travel to Texas A&M, Arkansas, and Vanderbilt.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:47 am to Govt Tide
Jesus who fricking cares? Why is this place so obsessed with comparing dick size?
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:49 am to gamecockman12
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This was a picture of Williams Brice when 4-6 South Carolina played 6-4 Kentucky last year.
One thing I've always admired about the USC fanbase; you guys pack your stadium regardless of record or opponent.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:50 am to Tornado Alley
quote:Texas won at Jack Trice by the same margin they won in front of 102k in Tuscaloosa when game day was there.
Do you think a rowdy 61,000 at Jack Trice has anything on a rowdy 88,000 at Jordan Hare or the Swamp?
Loud crowds are loud crowds. The difference is, the fanbases outside the SEC aren't as deluded and impressed with themselves like those in the SEC who think they have some secret formula to college football nobody else has
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