re: Texas A+M signal caller John Manziel bout to get humbled real fast

CBS has Luke, Damontre and Jake as #1, 10, & 13 on the draft board. If those Jrs forego their Sr years we shouldn't be Top 5. I'll take it though

Sean Porter was a 1st Rd projection before the year but is in the Rd 2 or 3 area now along with Swope. Lots of high end talent leaving us. Lots of Freshman stars too with Manziel, TJ, Trey, Obioha, etc

In the second halves, LSU and Florida both humbled the true freshman QB. Thread sucks.

Alabama 30 seconds > LSU. I think Johnny will survive without crying.

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Not unless he does something against a good defense. So far, he hasn't done a whole lot against the two good defenses he's faced.

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Know why UF and LSU have good Ds? Because no QB torches them. Manziel has done better than every other QB to play those teams except McCannon against LSU.

Who are your Heisman invites to NY and what have they done against elite Top 5 Ds?

TXAM beating bama would make things right in the world.... Go Aggies, rip them a new one!

Wait....so you're telling me Bama is going to hurt JFF/knock him out of the game/render him useless?

Why are you just now telling us this?? I wish someone would have posted that on this board oh, I don't know, 1000 other times leading up to now.

He has beaten up on a bunch of creampuffs. you arent a top 5 preseaon if you can even beat shitty florida.

HS gimmick offense? I thought Bammers were smart about football

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Manziel is an incredible player. If A&M will try and spread Bama our (see Utah '08) they can counter a lot of what Bama likes to do on D. With his running ability he can create some problems.

I think the biggest challenge for him vs Bama is simply playing smart ball for 4 qtrs. Bama will likely mush-rush to keep him contained and let him make some mistakes with his arm.

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Good assessment.

The key is getting Manziel to make mistakes by trying to do too much. When he is relaxed and working within the offense he is damn near impossible to stop. When he gets over excited and tries to pretend he is playing Tecmo Bowl is when he gets in trouble. For instance in the LSU game he made a few unforced errors that turned the game. LSU certainly deserves credit for that of course but still the plays were open and he just didn't execute. Can Bama do the same? Certainly that is the safe bet but it is no guarantee. The opportunities will be there if he can deliver.

The thing most people forget is A&M has a very, very good OL and 2 very, very physical RB's that can take it to the house at any time. You can't just try to contain JFF from running the ball and drop back in coverage. A&M loves to run quickly and powerful plays up the middle looking for the defense to be caught spread out and looking horizontally. Obviously Bama's D is designed to stop the run but you can't cover it all at the same time, something has to give. The key is if Manziel sees the weakness at the line when he calls the plays or if Bama can make adjustments running at double time speed and without a chance to make as many substitutions as they are used to.

I don't think that is where this game is determined though. I think the real game is if Bama's O can control the clock and drive on A&M's D to put A&M in a hole and to shorten the game. Do that and the A&M offense will have a tough time making this in to a shootout. If Bama's offense struggles though and gives Manziel 90 plays or more on the Bama D I don't think Bama's D can hold up that long.

Still think Bama wins but A&M's got a real shot. I also don't see Manziel getting dominated. I mean he has had 1 drive in the last 2 games that did not result in a TD or FG Attempt. Say what you will about Auburn and State's D but that's hard to do against air.

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He's the reason we will have a top 5 preseason ranking next year

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