re: Tennessee Fr. RB Treyvon Paulk accused of punching Ex GF; dismissed from team

Louisville offered? Sounds like another one headed to the land of misfit toys.

First 10 or 11 replies were before we knew what he was dismissed for.

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Isn't that similar to how DGB got to Norman?

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Almost carbon copy of DGB. But DGB did assault two womens. Not just one.

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I don't think Tenn has your thought process. I think they probably did their own investigation and felt that a dismissal from the team was warranted. The sooner dudes figure out that their scholarship is contingent on not hitting girls, the better.

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A fricking institution of higher learning has no business performing criminal investigations.

I see your point, due process is what got Jalen Mills cleared after witnesses were questioned, but this also happened in public and Butch made the call. People there and the victim obviously know who he is, and could have given statements if he didn't actually hit her. UT isn't giving him jail time, they're kicking him off the team. Big difference.

Justice 4 Travyonz

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Is that normal? Do assault cases typically get classified as being non-criminal in nature?

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The football team's investigation is by definition not a criminal investigation because they're a football team not a branch of the judicial system. It is still an investigation. Why you'd want to enable someone who appears to be an abuser is curious.

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but this also happened in public

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I thought it happened at a party, which means it could have been public or private depending on where they were.

Did anyone interview anyone else, at all? Because this thread makes it sound like a complaint was filed, no investigation was started, and the kid got kicked off the team, all in a manner of hours...

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could have given statements if he didn't actually hit her.

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How do we know they didn't? Was an investigation conducted? Because it seems like everyone took the girl at her word.

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UT isn't giving him jail time, they're kicking him off the team. Big difference.

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Absolutely. But it's a little concerning to me, at least, that all it takes is one woman's accusation to completely ruin what a young man has worked his whole life for. It may not be prison, but it's an extremely valuable opportunity that is being taken away. Not to mention the now forever tainted "guilt" that is associated anytime something like this is in the news.

Do you ever notice huge headlines proclaiming, "Rape claim was false! TheDrunkenTigah cleared on all charges. False accuser arrested."

But you can damn well be sure there was an article the SECOND the accusation got noticed. The accused's name in black and white. And no matter how innocent one may be, it'll forever taint your name.

But it's the status quo. And not enough men give a shite because it hasn't happened to them. It hasn't happened to me, but I fear that my future son could one day have his life ruined or derailed because of one false accusation. Due process, IMO, should be our expectation. I thought that was American, but some people don't seem to mind at all.

If it's true, and I have no reason to believe it's not given the physical evidence, absolutely glad he's gone. And no, I don't think it's a matter of just the recent heat regarding domestic violence although that likely only added more incentive. I say that because Coach Jones would've seen the truth of Domestic Violence in ways most of us will never see or know because his father was a long time Chief of Police and Jones grew up being used to meetings of police in house discussing crimes. DV is everywhere. Also, how quickly he was booted tells me it was a zero tolerance policy that simply brooks no argument. Weekend incident and Monday boot speaks volumes, imo. That's far quicker than I expect most would've handled it even with the recent NFL stuff.

Hate that it happened (no one deserves a punch like that) but absolutely glad CBJ did this and did so quickly without hesitation. Sends a message.

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ocelot4ark

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You really should actually read the report. Your chances of posting something that actually makes sense will go up exponentially.

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Because this thread makes it sound like a complaint was filed

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There was no complaint filed. Law enforcement responded to a call about a domestic violence situation.

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Because it seems like everyone took the girl at her word.

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The sheriff's department took photos of her injuries. So it's a helluva lot more than just "taking her at her word."

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Was an investigation conducted?

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You're kidding, right? Did you completely miss the part about photos of her injuries being taken.

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but it's an extremely valuable opportunity that is being taken away.

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It was UT's opportunity to give, they have every right to take it away. Paulk, on the other hand, has no constitutional right to play football. They can take that opportunity away from him if they decide he's not performing on the field...without "due process"...they can take it away from him for conduct off the field. Hell, they can take it away from him just because they think they can find someone better.

I'd say "don't take this personally"...but you probably will anyway. When you make comments that seem to defend a guy whom 99% of posters say is indefensible, you really shouldn't be surprised at what comes back your way. If you're going to take offense at being called an "idiot"...or whatever...do yourself a favor: Actually take the time and read the report.

And then use a little fricking common sense.