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Tennessee fans you better hope Heupel does better than Frost.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:03 pm
UCF's best coach has bombed in the big time. Easy to win in bush leagues.
Bert was terrible in the SEC and is killing Frost in his first year.
Adrian Martinez lol.
Bert was terrible in the SEC and is killing Frost in his first year.
Adrian Martinez lol.
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Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:05 pm to TheFourHorsemen
At least Heupel has a larger sample size than just one good season.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:12 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Heupel is about as average as you can get.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:16 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Heupel has a much better and different offense than frost.
Gave Mizzou their best offenses ever and hasn’t had an offense not top five nationally as a head coach.
Gave Mizzou their best offenses ever and hasn’t had an offense not top five nationally as a head coach.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:26 pm to TheFourHorsemen
As an Ole Miss fan, if Kiffin has a decent or even good year where do you think he goes next year? Obviously Ole Miss is just a place to prove he capable of holding it together and has grown up a bit.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:30 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Frost isn't at a powerhouse program anymore and it shows.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:32 pm to Smokeyone
quote:Well the good news is Oxford isn't filled with trash like Knoxville so we know he won't bolt so quickly
As an Ole Miss fan, if Kiffin has a decent or even good year where do you think he goes next year?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:41 pm to TheFourHorsemen
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Adrian Martinez lol.
Was a longtime UT commit. He's JG 2.0. I feel sorry for Frost.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:49 pm to VolnillaIce
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Heupel has a much better and different offense than frost.
Gave Mizzou their best offenses ever and hasn’t had an offense not top five nationally as a head coach.
His offense is good against cupcakes and not so good to average to SEC teams. Very rare was great.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:49 pm to Smokeyone
Florida or waits for Alabama job.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:52 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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At least Heupel has a larger sample size than just one good season.
Heupel has 3 seasons in his 'sample size'. It shows him taking over the season after UCF went 13-0 and then going in the following years:
12-1
10-3
6-4
He's now taken over a program that just went 3-7.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:59 pm to TrueLefty
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His offense is good against cupcakes and not so good to average to SEC teams. Very rare was great
Tenn fans don't want to hear it but he ran the scores up against high school teams that padded his stats. He had a couple of good games against good teams but, overall, sec teams shut him down. Hell Dooley had better stats his first year than any of JHs. His decline each year at ucf should've been a warning sign
Posted on 8/28/21 at 4:05 pm to JustGetItRight
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Heupel has 3 seasons in his 'sample size'. It shows him taking over the season after UCF went 13-0 and then going in the following years:
12-1
10-3
6-4
He's now taken over a program that just went 3-7
Yes, and Frost got hired at NU after a 6-7 and 13-0 season.
If you count 2018 and 2019, Huepel had 2 good seasons before being hired by a P5 team.
Probably still not going to be good at Tenn, but Huepel did more to earn his chance at P5 school than 6-7 and 13-0 Frost.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 4:21 pm to UndercoverBryologist
So, Frost taking a team that went 0-12 the year before he got there and going 6-7 then 13-0 in his two seasons is less 'deserving' than a guy that took over a team that went 13-0 and got worse in the 3 years thereafter?
Interesting.
Interesting.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 4:24 pm to JustGetItRight
Well, there’s as much to learn about how a coach maintains success as there is to learn from their first year of success.
Imagine if Chizik had been hired by Ohio State in 2011 based solely on the 2010 Auburn season.
Edit: Also, as I noted in a thread earlier today, teams’ 2020 schedule have to be somewhat adjusted to account for the effects of COVID on schedules and attendance.
A 6-4 2020 UCF team is probably a 9-4 team any other year.
12-1, 10-3, and 9-4 is still a pretty good resume.
Imagine if Chizik had been hired by Ohio State in 2011 based solely on the 2010 Auburn season.
Edit: Also, as I noted in a thread earlier today, teams’ 2020 schedule have to be somewhat adjusted to account for the effects of COVID on schedules and attendance.
A 6-4 2020 UCF team is probably a 9-4 team any other year.
12-1, 10-3, and 9-4 is still a pretty good resume.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 4:25 pm to TheFourHorsemen
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Easy to win in bush leagues.
Tennessee's first opponent is worse than bush leagues.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 4:27 pm to JustGetItRight
Nebraska is a poorly coached team. And even worse, they have no speed at skill positions, and an uninspired offensive line. Illinois is at best mediocre in terms of talent but Bielema coached them well. You could tell Illinois would win simply because they were not going to commit turnovers or make dumb plays. From a spectator standpoint, the game was difficult to watch.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 4:32 pm to VolnillaIce
We had better offenses before Heupel, he rebuilt it, but not the best
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:30 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Oxford isn't filled with trash
Oxfords trash just has daddy’s money.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:42 pm to TheFourHorsemen
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UCF's best coach has bombed in the big time. Easy to win in bush leagues.
Bert was terrible in the SEC and is killing Frost in his first year.
Adrian Martinez lol.
Heupel has a better staff than Frost.
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