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re: Tennessee Alabama Football Rivalry
Posted on 8/18/17 at 9:14 am to WhiskeyPapa
Posted on 8/18/17 at 9:14 am to WhiskeyPapa
Jane, you ignorant slut!
Firstly - not only are you wrong on the answer when you divide by zero, the website you linked is wrong as well. Dividing by zero is undefined and has no answer.
The proof of this is in reverse functions. That is, addition and subtraction are complementary and division and multiplication are also complementary. As an example - if you subtract x from y, you can add back x to the result and get y. If this does not hold true, an error has been made.
The same this happens for division. Anything you divide by can be multiplied by to get the same result. Go ahead, you can try it with zero. Feel free to post your results here.
Secondly - the bottom line is that you can hang your hat on technicalities if you wish. Just remember that for years when Alabama's wins were vacated, it did not mean that the opponent picked up a win. This only happens with a true forfeit, not a vacated win.
And finally, mygawd, man, show some pride and professionalism. If you claim ANY measure of success due to a technicality, it is bush league at best. We both know who has been dominant on the field. In reality, this rivalry really hasn't been that much of a matched contest in the global scheme of things. Report back here when you guys break the ten year losing streak and at least win two in a row so you can claim a streak of your own. Until then, man up and go to practice. Try making some of your own luck instead of depending on the NCAA arbiters to provide the high points of your success against Alabama.
Firstly - not only are you wrong on the answer when you divide by zero, the website you linked is wrong as well. Dividing by zero is undefined and has no answer.
The proof of this is in reverse functions. That is, addition and subtraction are complementary and division and multiplication are also complementary. As an example - if you subtract x from y, you can add back x to the result and get y. If this does not hold true, an error has been made.
The same this happens for division. Anything you divide by can be multiplied by to get the same result. Go ahead, you can try it with zero. Feel free to post your results here.
Secondly - the bottom line is that you can hang your hat on technicalities if you wish. Just remember that for years when Alabama's wins were vacated, it did not mean that the opponent picked up a win. This only happens with a true forfeit, not a vacated win.
And finally, mygawd, man, show some pride and professionalism. If you claim ANY measure of success due to a technicality, it is bush league at best. We both know who has been dominant on the field. In reality, this rivalry really hasn't been that much of a matched contest in the global scheme of things. Report back here when you guys break the ten year losing streak and at least win two in a row so you can claim a streak of your own. Until then, man up and go to practice. Try making some of your own luck instead of depending on the NCAA arbiters to provide the high points of your success against Alabama.
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:33 pm to WhiskeyPapa
UTk has won the SEC outright 4 times since 1970, five when you include the 1989 shared championship. Bama has won the SEC outright five times since 2009. 
Posted on 8/18/17 at 5:10 pm to cajunbama
Mike Dubose has a more recent SEC title than Tennessee.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 5:15 pm to Korin
quote:That had to have made a bruise.
Mike Dubose has a more recent SEC title than Tennessee.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 5:17 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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The only loss worse than the 41-14 loss the Vols put on Bammer in 1995 is the 1998 Arkansas game: Arkansas 42 Alabama 6
41-14=27
LSU beat Alabama 28-0 in 1957 and 27-0 in 1997. Math is hard
Posted on 8/18/17 at 5:20 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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quote: 10 in a row and going for 11 this year! I am not an astrophysicist so I don't know how to factor in the infinity symbol. Bammer has 31 forfeits and vacated games for cheating. Tennessee has 0. Oh wait. Found it. The answer to the question: What is 31 divided by 0 is as follows: 31 / 0 = 0 Instead of saying 31 divided by 0 equals 0, you could just use the division symbol, which is a slash, as we did above. Also note that all answers in our division calculations are rounded to three decimals if necessary. Here are some other ways to display or communicate that 31 divided by 0 equals 0: 31 ÷ 0 = 0 31 over 0 = 0 31/0 = 0 Bama = 0
Actually 31/0 does not equal zero. Again, math is hard
Posted on 8/18/17 at 9:53 pm to iglass
1. I -thought- 31/0 was undefined. That is why I mentioned infinity. I went with what the site said.
2. Being caught cheating is not a technicality.
3. If I read that one site correctly, the only SEC team to ever have a game vacated is Bammer.
4. Same same. The only SEC team to ever forfiet a game is Bammer.
2. Being caught cheating is not a technicality.
3. If I read that one site correctly, the only SEC team to ever have a game vacated is Bammer.
4. Same same. The only SEC team to ever forfiet a game is Bammer.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:55 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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1. I -thought- 31/0 was undefined. That is why I mentioned infinity. I went with what the site said.
Learn something for yourself instead of blindly trusting some other site. Most of us learned about dividing by zero, oh, in the fourth grade or so.
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2. Being caught cheating is not a technicality.
Anything can be a technicality. A large chunk of the games you mention were because a handful of players wanted to earn some money doing what other students do on every campus in the nation. They probably didn't even know it was against the rules and it's not something the athletic department told them to go do. I'm not giving them a free pass but this was learned after the fact and selling textbooks had no effect whatsoever on game performance or outcome. So again, if that's the sort of thing you are counting on for wins, that sounds sorta pathetic.
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3. If I read that one site correctly, the only SEC team to ever have a game vacated is Bammer.
Vacating games is relatively new and it represents evolving policy. Essentially, the NCAA feels that in some cases, the "other" team should not benefit from one teams errors and mistakes. Therefore, the results are different than forfeits as already noted. Again, these are usually technicalities with regards to NCAA records and rarely reflect what happened on the field.
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4. Same same. The only SEC team to ever forfiet a game is Bammer.
WRONG. Your reading comprehension skills are pretty crappy. Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss St., South Carolina, Auburn, Kentucky, and LSU have all forfeited games as SEC members at one time or another. Texas A&M, Missouri, and Arkansas have additionally forfeited games while they were a member of another conference.
Again, as a word of advice, perhaps you guys need to quit worrying and counting on technicalities, help from the NCAA, and random acts of God to help you win football games. Maybe the Vols should try a little bit of recruiting and hard work first. JMHO.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:58 pm to WhiskeyPapa
UT's last win in this "rivalry" was 2006. Which means that, if you're a 10-year-old kid born into a UT family, you've never enjoyed a victory over Bama. And you have no hopes to do so any time in the near future. Rivalry? 
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 12:09 am
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:03 am to iglass
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Anything can be a technicality. A large chunk of the games you mention were because a handful of players wanted to earn some money doing what other students do on every campus in the nation.
Can that be? Poor Bammer. The only transgressor brought to justice.
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WRONG. Your reading comprehension skills are pretty crappy. Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss St., South Carolina, Auburn, Kentucky, and LSU have all forfeited games as SEC members at one time or another.
I don't see that on this site.
Forfeits and Vacated Games
I checked Auburn against this link. It doesn't show any forfeits -by- Auburn. It shows forfeits -to Auburn.
Same thing with Arkansas- Bammer forfeited to Arkansas in 1993. I see no forfeits -by- Arkansas.
Bammer forfeited a -tie- to Tennessee in 1993.
It is a hard site to read. But...
Surely you can do better than this?
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 12:20 am
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:10 am to iglass
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Again, as a word of advice, perhaps you guys need to quit worrying and counting on technicalities, help from the NCAA, and random acts of God to help you win football games.
Wow it is so odd that people say, "Wow Bammer is so good! Saben's a genius!" When it is Bammer that benefits in every way from the SEC officiating.
Hell, they clearly benefited from the officials in the last game they played.
And they still lost.
The National Championship's refs have decided not to call targeting fouls
The first nine minutes of Monday’s Alabama-Clemson National Championship included two potential targeting fouls by Alabama. Neither was ruled as such. Neither was a third-quarter hit by Clemson, even though it was awfully target-ish.
The first play in question: a high hit by Tide linebacker Reuben Foster on Clemson quarterback Deshaun Watson, which netted a 15-yard personal foul flag but not a targeting call.
And the second play: a hit to the head by Bama cornerback Tony Brown on Clemson’s No. 1 receiver, Mike Williams."
LINK
When are the other SEC teams going to get tired of the refs so blatantly cheating on behalf of Alabama?
They are the biggest cheaters in the history of the sport.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 12:18 am
Posted on 8/19/17 at 2:58 pm to WhiskeyPapa
So, by the end of 2017, Bama had given up 31 wins to forfeits or vacancies. This should have really helped UT bridge the gap in overall wins. The problem is that, in the nine years since, Bama has won 54 more games than Tennessee. Bama gave up 31 games and it took UT less than a decade to fall 23 games further behind.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 3:04 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Walter Pages 
Posted on 8/19/17 at 3:08 pm to David Ricky
Walt has been adding to the stringer for 3 days now 
Posted on 8/19/17 at 5:11 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Grandfather was on that '28 team. We would see him a few times a year & the first thing he would do is show you his garden, take sugar cubes to the horses and then take me thru photo albums of Vols football.
I don't remember him every saying more than hello or goodbye to my father, penalty for taking his daughter and being a grad from the "other UT".
One can only soak up so much as a 7-10 year old, but I clearly recall that he considered Neyland to be his father & hated everything about Alabama with exception to the Bear.
Classic rivalry that needs to hit the front stage again.
I don't remember him every saying more than hello or goodbye to my father, penalty for taking his daughter and being a grad from the "other UT".
One can only soak up so much as a 7-10 year old, but I clearly recall that he considered Neyland to be his father & hated everything about Alabama with exception to the Bear.
Classic rivalry that needs to hit the front stage again.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:32 am to WhiskeyPapa
Whelp... I was out of pocket over the weekend but upon further review, I think you are correct about the "direction" of the forfeits. I gotta man up and admit my error about other teams within the SEC and their forfeit record. In my defense, the site is indeed a bit confusing and is not clearly written.
And nonetheless, I think my other points stand well. There is a big difference in the institution deliberately doing something on the field and football related to cheat, versus a player doing something wrong that is not really game or football related. I think the sane world at least recognizes this and considers the on field performances around the water cooler if not the official NCAA recordbook. Heck, some teams never even adjust their own records to reflect the forfeits and vacated games.
And nonetheless, I think my other points stand well. There is a big difference in the institution deliberately doing something on the field and football related to cheat, versus a player doing something wrong that is not really game or football related. I think the sane world at least recognizes this and considers the on field performances around the water cooler if not the official NCAA recordbook. Heck, some teams never even adjust their own records to reflect the forfeits and vacated games.
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