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re: Tennessee AD Danny White releases statement, goes HAM on NCAA
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:15 pm to narddogg81
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:15 pm to narddogg81
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lol, you look at this situation and you think it's the NCAA that has to end instead of teams purchasing players so that the team with the biggest/wealthiest booster base will always have the best players should end. That's what you think college football should be?
How do you think college football worked prior to NIL? The biggest richest schools got the best recruits. Nothing has changed except they no longer have to hide it. Maybe a few schools have been bolder but the idea that recruits didn't already get paid to attend the biggest/richest schools is laughable.
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I got news for you, this nil thing is going to come crashing down hard as soon as the females start suing because they are not getting millions in nil money. I bet the courts won't pretend like it's not the schools controlling this money then
If they are stars, females make plenty. Ask Angel Reese if she is underpaid.
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:15 pm to AwgustaDawg
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I don't know that they have any options but to try to win the battle in the court of public opinion
Or they could, I don't know I'm just spit-balling here, get the most powerful prosecutor in the state to file a lawsuit against the NCAA?
The whole 'court of public opinion' is simply a flanking maneuver.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:15 pm to LewEvansFan
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Wrong. Regardless of what delusion you have, that isn’t the crux of the issue. The NCAA is trying to say a “booster” is providing pay for play. Not that they helped fly him to campus.
A booster flying a recruit to town on a visit to school to meet coaches is a major issue. You hope that didn’t happen, but you FEAR it did.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:15 pm to djsdawg
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Wrong. Regardless of what delusion you have
IRregardless.
When talking to deputydawg, you must use his made-up retard words.
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A booster flying a recruit to town on a visit to school to meet coaches is a major issue.
Wait, I thought you said the big deal is if he MET WIT MUH COACHES?
Moving the goalposts back to the flight now that you got called out?
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:16 pm to DawginSC
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It seems that the NCAA believes that one (or more) of the NIL deals UT players have signed violate NCAA rules, and UT allowed the players to compete rather than suspending them.
This is contradictory to the statement given by the AD in this thread. They had access to all of those and reviewed them and found nothing.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:17 pm to djsdawg
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A booster flying a recruit to town on a visit to school to meet coaches is a major issue. You hope that didn’t happen, but you FEAR it did.
Wrong. They flew him into town to meet with Spyre and discuss his NIL contract.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:17 pm to Smokeys Howl
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B-BUT MUH PRIVATE JET!!!
Acting in a nonsensical manner, as you are, is more proof of your FEAR.
Insert crying lib thing gif
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:17 pm to LewEvansFan
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They had access to all of those and reviewed them and found nothing.
Yeah, we're not backing down.
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Acting in a nonsensical manner
Make up your mind, whelp.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:18 pm to Smokeys Howl
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Nope.
A booster can pony up cash for an NIL deal. Boosters are private citizens, not university employees.
Boosters are considered part of the university no matter if you want to acknowledge that or not. If you want to be a booster and ignore this fact, don't be surprised when the school breaks all ties with you and no longer allows you to be associated with the program in anyway.
But there are times when boosters can do things. Some of it requires permission, for example if they want to buy or have a player over for dinner, that is easily done with permission.
As for as giving them NIL, that's going to depend on market value. AKA, Bob's Junkyard 2 blocks away from your stadium giving a kid a $2 million NIL deal is going to draw an investigation. But Nike doing it is not.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:19 pm to Smokeys Howl
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thought you said the big deal is if he MET WIT MUH COACHES
We understand why you are scared, but
Why is this so confusing for you?
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:20 pm to 3down10
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Boosters are considered part of the university no matter if you want to acknowledge that or not.
lol no.
A booster is anyone who donates. Yes, there are BIG boosters, and little boosters.
Legally they are exactly the same animal, IRREGARDLESS (lmao) of your feelings on how they are 'considered'.
In the age of NIL the word 'booster' no longer has any meaning. And they certainly aren't in any way banned from striking an NIL deal with a recruit.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:20 pm to paperwasp
The NCAA is going to be dead and buried or they better conform to the times.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:20 pm to LewEvansFan
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Wrong. They flew him into town to meet with Spyre and discuss his NIL contract.
Are you saying he did or did NOT visit with the coaches on this trip?
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:21 pm to narddogg81
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I got news for you, this nil thing is going to come crashing down hard as soon as the females start suing because they are not getting millions in nil money.
I said this from the beginning. As soon as Heather, the women's field hockey player from Bryn Mawr, sees the QB at Ohio State or the PG at Kansas making millions and she's not getting a cent is going to go running to the courts. We have seen recently that there is no longer even a pretense of abiding by the rule of law in American courts. When the drumbeat starts - and it's going to - there will be plenty of progressive and Democratic judges just chomping at the bit to give male jocks their comeuppance.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:22 pm to LewEvansFan
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This is contradictory to the statement given by the AD in this thread. They had access to all of those and reviewed them and found nothing.
The NCAA has access as well and believes there is something.
As history has shown us, saying "We thought it's okay" is not a defense that works for a school when dealing with a violation.
If the NCAA finds the school was supposed to suspend a player for a pay for play NIL deal and failed to do so, the NCAA is supposed to sanction the school.
The AD's opinion doesn't matter.
And the reality is nobody is actually trying to claim that Nico wasn't paid to attend UT. They're just trying to claim that it's okay to do so.
The NCAA bylaws are quite clear that it's not okay.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:22 pm to Loganville Vols
The NCAA will soon be history. But UT’s temper tantrum isn’t what is going to do it.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:22 pm to djsdawg
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Are you saying he did or did NOT visit with the coaches on this trip?
Are you saying he did?
You must be an 'insider'.
(say IRREGARDLESS again. I need a laugh)
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:25 pm to djsdawg
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A booster flying a recruit to town on a visit to school to meet coaches is a major issue. You hope that didn’t happen, but you FEAR it did.
Your little brain still cannot get to the crux of the issue.
Read all the context provided by the university and lawyers. This is about Nico’s contract and the NCAA retroactively trying to qualify collectives as boosters, thus try to say his contract is pay for play. It’s really not that difficult to understand. The flight is small potatoes.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:25 pm to Smokeys Howl
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lol no.
A booster is anyone who donates. Yes, there are BIG boosters, and little boosters.
Legally they are exactly the same animal, IRREGARDLESS (lmao) of your feelings on how they are 'considered'.
In the age of NIL the word 'booster' no longer has any meaning. And they certainly aren't in any way banned from striking an NIL deal with a recruit.
First, irregardless is not a word and you sound stupid when you use it because if it was a word, it would mean the exact same thing as regardless.
Everything I said is how things actually work, if you want to pretend otherwise there is nothing I can do to stop you. But again, you just sound stupid. If that was the case, you wouldn't even need the NIL as cover for pay to play, you could just give them money as you wanted.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:25 pm to LewEvansFan
Most people don’t understand Nico signed the NIL with Sypre sports. And he was not committed to Tennessee at the time. But the contract said that he would sign with SYPRE sports, and being under no obligation to sign with Tennessee. He could’ve went to another school, but he would still have Spyre Sports representing him on his NIL. And this is per Tom Mars attorney for SYPRE sports.
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