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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:13 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:13 pm
are they supposed to be good this year?

haven't really paid attention to them since pearl left
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:14 pm to
google
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:14 pm to
They looked great tonight, lot better than I thought they would.
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:15 pm to
From what I gathered from their comments they are really good or really bad depending on the night but they may be gelling now. They looked really good tonight.
Posted by Lordofwrath88
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:15 pm to
Very good, coach hitting groove, stellar recruits as always, the SEC may be a bit.... oh wait.... you mean the MEN'S team. Oh...



Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:18 pm to
1st Tier: Kentucky & Florida

2nd Tier: Mizzou & Arky

3rd Tier: LSU & Bama

Tennessee is probably somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd tier.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

google

sorry mines broke
Posted by I Ham That I Ham
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:20 pm to
They beat a pretty bad LSU team tonight

Too early to say anything about them yet
Posted by BradyAlex
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:21 pm to
Basketball in tennessee is played the same as in other states. Except it is in tennessee instead of other places.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

1st Tier: Kentucky & Florida

2nd Tier: Mizzou & Arky

3rd Tier: LSU & Bama

Tennessee is probably somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd tier.

sounds about right
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:24 pm to
Very up and down early on. Underperformed in OOC play, but got a couple quality wins and we're in a better spot than we were in Cuonzo's first two years where we were first 4 out.

Cuonzo's M.O. has been mediocre to poor play in OOC, followed by very solid, quality basketball in league play.

KenPom has Tennessee ranked #18 in the nation. #15 in offensive efficiency, #34 defensive efficiency.

RPIForecast has Tennessee as favorites in 14 of the 17 SEC games we have remaining, which would give us a 15-3 record in league play. KenPom projects a 13-5 SEC record.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 11:26 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

They beat a pretty bad LSU team tonight

Too early to say anything about them yet

yea need them to play a better team before we can really judge them
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:29 pm to
I have not seen any metrics that support Tennessee behind Arky or Mizzou. Certainly not an entire tier anyway. Most projection systems have Tennessee #3 in the league with Arkansas #4.

Both Arkansas and Mizzou are going to end up with strength of schedules north of 80 on Selection Sunday.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 11:34 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:33 pm to
quote:

Very up and down early on. Underperformed in OOC play, but got a couple quality wins and we're in a better spot than we were in Cuonzo's first two years where we were first 4 out.

Cuonzo's M.O. has been mediocre to poor play in OOC, followed by very solid, quality basketball in league play.

KenPom has Tennessee ranked #18 in the nation. #15 in offensive efficiency, #34 defensive efficiency.

RPIForecast has Tennessee as favorites in 14 of the 17 SEC games we have remaining, which would give us a 15-3 record in league play. KenPom projects a 13-5 SEC record.



sounds like Martin has you guys headed in the right direction
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:34 pm to
quote:

I have not seen any metrics that support Tennessee behind Arky or Mizzou. Most projection systems have Tennessee #3 in the league with Arkansas #4.



Just a few bad losses. I wouldn't be surprised to see them end up with a better record than both of them or a worse record. I just can't quite figure them out right now.

Cuonzo teams seem a lot like Anthony Grant's. Struggle in OCC, but end up with pretty good SEC records.
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:36 pm to
quote:

sounds like Martin has you guys headed in the right direction



Not willing to go that far, but the last 4 games have been very encouraging. Two big-time blowouts over top 50 teams (at least before we played them ) is a good sign.

I definitely don't trust this team or staff enough to feel confident yet.
Posted by GoBigOrange86
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:37 pm to
quote:

I definitely don't trust this team or staff enough to feel confident yet.


Same here. Like I said, I'm back in wait and see mode. But I really like Cuonzo. I hope Tennessee turns out to be a good NCAA tourney team.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:37 pm to
quote:

I have not seen any metrics that support Tennessee behind Arky or Mizzou. Certainly not an entire tier anyway. Most projection systems have Tennessee #3 in the league with Arkansas #4.

our game on the 22nd should be a good one
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:40 pm to
I can agree with that. It's extremely frustrating though.

The numbers really love Tennessee, especially ones that include margin of victory. The beatdowns of Xavier, Wake, and LSU away from TBA plus the 35 point win over UVA offset the UTEP and NC State losses in those models.

But I can see where you're coming from. The team that showed up in those two games can lose to just about anybody on a given night. Way, way too talented for either of those losses to happen.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

I definitely don't trust this team or staff enough to feel confident yet.

I feel the same way about us playing on the road.

All indications are that we'll be a lot better on the road based off our neutral site games thus far. But we haven't played a true road game yet, so they don't have my full confidence as of yet
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