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Teasip cheating again

Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:54 am
Posted by Buster83
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:54 am
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The new name, image and likeness rules in college sports started on July 1, just eight days after the Supreme Court ruled in NCAA v Alston that NCAA member schools violated antitrust laws by not allowing collegiate athletes to profit off their image.

It was the perfect timing to dull the enforcement effects of the organization.

In one day, boosters started sliding into players' DMs, when they'd previously been told to stay far away. The money coming in was celebrated and a booster's association with companies that did deals with athletes went unquestioned.

But it's one thing for boosters to set up business deals for incoming athletes. It's another for boosters to set up a slush fund to lure certain players to the school under the guise of name, image and likeness.

And that's exactly what Horns with Heart is.

A group of Longhorns boosters announced Monday a fund that will blindly give University of Texas offensive lineman under scholarship $50,000 a year to perform charity work for yet-to-be-disclosed charities.

While it's admirable to ensure that charity work is done, to pay for it is quite bold. Charity is also the perfect vehicle to avoid reproach. After all, who could get mad at charity?

"We're the first charitable NIL entity….and what that means is we're doing good," said Rob Blair, who co-founded Horns with Heart, in his interview with "Texas Homer," published on YouTube.

Attempts to reach Blair directly were unsuccessful.

The issue is that Horns with Heart is a booster organization designed to fund an important position group and win recruits while masquerading as a name, image and likeness deal.

It will be the first of many or at least until schools decide it is their responsibility to shut them down.

Here's what we know:

1. This is not a name, image and likeness deal
Name, image and likeness deals were meant for popular athletes to be able to cash in on their fame. Blair even admits that offensive lineman aren't that marketable.

"The only time you see the offensive line is when they do something bad on TV," Blair said. "If they get a holding call, they miss a block. There is no SportsCenter top 10 blocks…It's such a vital position that gets zero coverage. We can bring that to light."

Blair added that nobody is talking about Texas offensive lineman Jake Majors and the group seeks to change that.

2. The organization admits the compensation they are offering is more than 50 times the largest deal for the position
In his interview, Blair says that "the largest NIL deal for the offensive line last year was less than four figures."

So how does the group arrive that market value for each offensive lineman here is 50 times that and to work for non-profits? Undisclosed non-profits with no financial plan?

3. They're not picking specific offensive linemen, which is counter to what NIL means
While Blair makes the claim that it's the boosters altruistic desire to give offensive linemen their due, it's much more accurate to say that offensive linemen have tremendous market value on the field, not in name, image and likeness deals.

So giving that position group money and winning the battle in recruiting with the get-a-scholarship-and-you-get-$50,000 makes a ton of sense. It's just not name, image and likeness.

The best offensive linemen on the market might be worth more than any position other than quarterback and Texas has been losing that battle in recruiting.

The University of Texas only signed one of the top 70 offensive linemen in the Class of 2021, according to 247 Sports, while rival Texas A&M nabbed four.

Eleven of the top 70 linemen in the nation played high school ball in Texas.

4. The construct seemingly violates Texas state law
The state's NIL law says "no individual, corporate entity, or organization may enter into any agreement with a prospective student athlete relating to the prospective student athlete's name, image or likeness prior to their enrollment in an institution of higher education or use inducements of future name, image and likeness compensation arrangement to recruit a prospective student athlete to any institution of higher education."

The very announcement of the fund that offers any Texas offensive lineman an automatic $50,000 is indisputably an inducement because, whether it is overtly mentioned or not, recruits who come to the University of Texas know that their scholarship is tied to a $50,000 a year cash windfall.

For the last decade, non-marketable players in the NFL have been paid marketing fees in advance by agents in order to score their contract. That's now making it to the college game.

And if schools think it doesn't involve them because it's boosters or that the NCAA is completely out to lunch, there's a rude awakening coming. Because long term, the NCAA knows that without enforcement, they are a paper umbrella that is on the cusp of folding.

It's why on Wednesday, at an industry conference in Las Vegas, NCAA president Mark Emmert volunteered that the NCAA is currently investigating several schools for NIL violations.


This is going to get out of hand quickly. College sports are never going to be the same
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This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 9:57 am
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:57 am to
Lol trusted source Darren Rovell

Also, nice response thread
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7142 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:58 am to
so is A&M.

NIL isn't an allowance for boosters to offer money to recruits to your program.
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
3452 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:00 am to
Rovell is just as reliable as Tim Shepard
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:02 am to
Agreed. That guy is also full of shite. Your fanbase is the only one that is letting the people that quote him get under your skin
Posted by BigB123
Texas
Member since Dec 2018
985 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:06 am to
Horn fanbase isn’t thin skinned? ROFLcopter goes swa swa swa.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:15 am to
Someone link the article about the NCAA investigating Aggy
Posted by GeauxTigerNation
Member since 1988
Member since Nov 2013
13429 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:35 am to
Nobody cares about your gay little 8-4 program and their pathetic little rivalries.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:37 am to
I cannot believe they were "stupid" enough to set up a charity and advertise pay for play. It's unbelievably ignorant. And then they have media advertising NIL deals for transfer as well.

Better to be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 10:39 am
Posted by andyv95
Nashville
Member since Sep 2021
1492 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:40 am to
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Nobody cares about your gay little 8-4 program and their pathetic little rivalries.


Yet here you are you dumb Cajun lol
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
3452 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:44 am to
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Nobody cares about your gay little 8-4 program and their pathetic little rivalries


Let me guess, you didn't actually graduate from LOLSU did you? Are you over 15 years old? Hard to tell from your comments.

I know it is hard to be the bottom feeder in the SEC west but it won't last forever. As long as your new coach can keep the players from raping the coeds, you should be back to relevance in a few years.
Posted by GeauxTigerNation
Member since 1988
Member since Nov 2013
13429 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:45 am to
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bottom feeder in the SEC west


This makes A&M and Jimbo look so much worse
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15075 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:48 am to
Shouldn't jump the gun on this stuff. Much of the business in college football today are people writing these sorts of articles for clicks.
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:53 am to
Lol so if LSU is the "bottom feeder" that means that they're feeding on the absolute bottom, which is A&M according to the 27-24 score?

Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17422 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 11:03 am to
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so is A&M.


But Bama fer sure aint!
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80152 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 11:06 am to
Offensive Linemen are best marketed in the local area of the school.

Here's an example:

On my way to work, I listen to the streamed broadcast of KZNE. Quite often I hear advertisements for the Sleep Center with Kenyon Green pitching their products.

That's a way NIL can be done correctly.
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 11:07 am
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22678 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 11:09 am to
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NIL isn't an allowance for boosters to offer money to recruits to your program.




It is 98% that, 1% pretending it's not and 1% legit deals.

Some people(Texas here apparently) seem to think the "pretending it's not" isn't important.



Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1443 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 11:18 am to
If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19225 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 11:32 am to
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The very announcement of the fund that offers any Texas offensive lineman an automatic $50,000 is indisputably an inducement because, whether it is overtly mentioned or not, recruits who come to the University of Texas know that their scholarship is tied to a $50,000 a year cash windfall.

I wondered about this the other day when I heard about the $50k per year for linemen deal at Texas. How is this not just openly paying for recruits?

If a HS OT is down to say, Texas or Bama. Since UT has announced that all offensive linemen will receive $50k a year for the next 3 years but Bama has made no such announcement. Of course the kid is going to UT for the $50k.

The NCAA or the SEC or someone is gonna have to get on top of this kind of thing and say that any NIL deal for a position group is only for student athletes already on the roster on the date the NIL deal was signed. Any recruit or transfer coming in after the deal is put in place is not eligible for any payments/benefits of said deal."

If they don't do something like that, then it's just buying recruits out in the open.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19225 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 11:34 am to
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bottom feeder in the SEC west

Remind us all how many times Aggy has win the division...TIA
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