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Sumlin vs. Gus: Who's more dangerous?

Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:39 am
Posted by CrimsonCoast
The Coast
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:39 am
There has been a lot of talk about who the better coach is in the SEC. I truly believe what Gus did this year was nothing short of a miracle. And there is one big difference between what Gus has done vs. what Sumlin [and even Saban & Miles] has done. Sumlin's success has been highly dependent on one spectacular player [JFF]. Miles & Saban's success has been highly dependent on superior recruiting. Gus has showed us that he can take a bunch of rag-tag, do-nothing, quitters and make them one of the most prolific scoring machines in the SEC. He can put a defensive back at QB and triple option you to death. He is an offensive genius and has that program believing.

I don't know if it is the scheme or the play calling, but that guy just has it. If you were to ask me who I'd rather see go to another conference, it wouldn't be Sumlin or Miles. It would be Gus. That guy is just too dangerous.

That being said: Bama by 14.







Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6238 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:40 am to
Gus by a long shot. Put JFF in Gus' offense and Auburn wins the national title
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:41 am to
Gus is best coach in all the land
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:41 am to
Several arky posters' blood pressure just shot up.
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30171 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:42 am to
Gus and it's not even close
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
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Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:43 am to
Gus
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:47 am to
Gus by a wide margin, IMO.
Posted by Marines4Auburn
Auburn Alum in South Florida
Member since Sep 2009
14926 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:48 am to
I agree with everything you said short of the "rag-tag, do-nothing" label of the players. These are 18 year old kids, all of whom are part of top 15 recruiting classes. They simply lacked good leadership, a paramount element of any entity that relies on a group concept to compete.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54163 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:49 am to
I think both are good, but it is too early in their respective stints to make any final call on either. Muschamp went 11-2 last year and is now considered terrible.

Having said that, running is almost always going to be more consistent than passing, so I would say Gus has that going in his favor.

quote:

That being said: Bama by 14.

Bama by 11.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Several arky posters' blood pressure just shot up.


I'm looking forward to the horror stories that someone heard from a guy in a dinnner 6 years ago. "He's the Devil."
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79261 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:50 am to
As a homer, I'd say Gus, but also with the caveat that he's just a good fit at Auburn too. He gets how AU does things. I think he'd be successful at other programs too, obviously, but I don't think this turnaround is transferable.

Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
14562 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:52 am to
Gus

JFF is the dangerous one, not Sumlin.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42571 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:09 am to
Bama should win by 14. Saban has his machine well tuned. The fact Gus even has us to this point is nothing short of amazing. People forget about the attrition infer Gene.
Posted by PharmacistReb
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2009
5058 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:11 am to
Gus by a mile.

Gene Chizik with a fro has lived a blessed life with two NFL-caliber quarterbacks to mask his ineptitude. Once there's no more Case Keenum or Johnny Meth Head, then it's going to get ugly.
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:11 am to
Chip
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7215 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:11 am to
Gus inherited a roster littered with high caliber talent across the board.

While Sumlin got one of the best players of all time, as well as several other very nice contributors and even several All-Americans, he was left with absolute shite defensively.

It's too early to tell on both.

Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
7956 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:13 am to
stupid. put Auburn's defense on the A&M squad and A&M wins the national title.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7215 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Once there's no more Case Keenum or Johnny Meth Head, then it's going to get ugly.

And what of his stacked top ten recruiting classes? Do they just flame out? How many of those did he squander at Houston?


Oh wait ... I remember. Chizik had the same thing. It doesn't matter that Sumlin has never sucked as a coach like Gene did in Iowa. He has JFF. His fate has been determined.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42571 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:15 am to
No... No Gus didn't.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7215 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:17 am to
How many top ten recruiting classes are represented on AU's roster? 3?
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