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re: So is The Auburn mascot racist too? How about Mizzou? Clemson? Exc.

Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by MizzouTrue
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:00 pm to
Missouri mascot actually fought against the south.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:01 pm to
TLDR
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:08 pm to
Did you just link Wikipedia?
Posted by old man tiger
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:16 pm to
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Everything is racist.


calling someone a racist is racism. Someone pointing out racism is probably a racist. Seems to be the trend these days.
Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:25 pm to
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Did you just link Wikipedia?

Wiki is fastest and easiest link for the short story. And as a WBTS historian and published author of many articles, I think the Wiki summation is pretty good and accurate.

I'm not saying the name of the LSU Tigers is directly related to the WBTS "Louisiana Tigers." However, reasonable people could conclude that the two were related.

But... feel free to write your own history. Apparently the Mayor of New Orleans believes that is his mission. So, join him.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:26 pm to
Is this a record on here for the number of times something has been reposted?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:27 pm to
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Wiki is fastest and easiest link for the short story. And as a WBTS historian and published author of many articles, I think the Wiki summation is pretty good and accurate.


No respectable historian would ever use wikipedia as a source. You're so full of shite it's not even funny at this point.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:29 pm to
So Auburn is actually not racist at all. I'll be damned.
Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:38 pm to
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RB10 - No respectable historian would ever use wikipedia as a source. You're so full of shite it's not even funny at this point.

RB10 - What do you know about history, historians, publications or research? If you want a reference to my latest published article, I'll link it though it is about WWII rather than the WBTS.

Of course you are welcome to do your own research (if you know how.} I recommend you start with the Wiki footnotes to that article that reference source material. I won't hold my breath waiting for the sophomoric results of your "research."

I also recommend you go outside and play for two hours to work off your bile. Leave the adults alone.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 1:41 pm
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:39 pm to
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Jacknola




Claims to be a historian. Uses Wikipedia.
Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:41 pm to
Here we go again
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:43 pm to
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Elephants are from Africa. Alabama's mascot is racist


Technically, they are also from Asia.

Alamite, the actual live mascot that Alabama had prior to giving way to the enormous cost of keeping a creature like that, was an Asian elephant. You can tell because it is a male elephant that doesn't have tusks.

Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:59 pm to
yeah suck on that ole miss!!! us tigers are the only real racists round these parts ya hear?!
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:00 pm to
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Is this a record on here for the number of times something has been reposted?


Dickbutt pic
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
40252 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:02 pm to
idk that weird green thing back in the day was everywhere...scunchie or some shite.
Posted by Ridgewalker
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:05 pm to
The Wisconsin eagle was called Old Abe. He flew over my hometown when the Wisconsin men battled Jeff Thompson's troops in a running skirmish. There is an steel eagle on the courthouse square in that birds honor today.

LINK

Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:08 pm to
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JacknolaSo is The Auburn mascot racist too? How about Mizzou? Clemson? Exc. by JacknolaWhile the term "Louisiana Tigers" was originally used only by Wheat's Battalion, it was eventually applied to all CSA troops from Louisiana. Hence, "Louisiana Tigers" is indeed a title with links to the WBTS and Louisiana troops.






Actually, the mascot name 'Tigers' had nothing whatsoever to do with the CSA Louisiana Tigers.

This is actually how the name came about:


Charles E. Coates, Jr., a Dean at LSU and the school's first football coach, noticed in the late 1890s that his school, unlike many others at the time, did not have a ferocious animal as its mascot, (as he related later in a letter written in 1937 during a retrospective interview relating what actually happened several years AFTER LSU chose their colors and played their first game in 1893.

He thought that LSU's colors of purple and gold (chosen in Feb. 1893) resembled the face of a tiger closely enough to use as the team's mascot, and ferocious enough to be en vogue with the times.
It had nothing to do with the Civil War or CSA or 'Louisiana Tigers.' People who 'associated' or later 'attributed' 'Tigers' to the civil war regiment were expressing an opinion, not fact. There is no written documentation at all that proclaims this as fact. It's total fabrication and opinion.

The 'Louisiana Tigers' was actually the name of SEVERAL La. military outfits in the early 1800s that fought in the Battle of New Orleans and the Spanish-American War, among others. The LSU mascot was """"""NOT"""""" NAMED AFTER the 'Louisiana Tigers' military unit that fought in Manassas,Va., or any other La. Military unit, as some people ERRONEOUSLY claim or propose. It was coincidence, and people who have written this inconclusive opinion are just fantasizing (quoted from Dan Hardesty - La. historian, author and journalist.)

MUCH MUCH later, it was the 1955 'fourth-quarter ball club' that coined the moniker 'Fighting Tigers.' The word 'fighting' was not added until NINETEEN FIFTY FIVE.
In addition, since the late 1890s, LSU has used the Tiger Emblem from the Washington Artillery - later the 141st Field Artillery - in existence since EIGHTEEN THIRTY EIGHT and that STLL EXISTS TO THIS DAY. Since 1838, the Washington Artillery has fought in numerous foreign wars defending America, including 1846 in the Mexican American war under General and future President of the United States Zachary Taylor. After earning the designation of 141st Field Arillery later, the unit mobilzed for World War II where it earned the Presidential Unit Citation, serving both in Europe and North Africa. Between 1959 and 1967 it was called the 141st Field Artllery Batallion, and in 2004 and 2005 and again in 2010 the 141st FA was mobilized to Baghdad, Iraq in Operation Iraqi Freedom. A detachment from this unit returned to New Orleans to assist in rescue efforts during and after Hurricane Katrina.....








This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 2:17 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:11 pm to
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Auburn adopted the "War Eagle" from ... get this ... a damn-yankee regiment, the 8th Wisconsin who burned and pillaged their way through Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. Never understood why the Aubs did that except maybe to emphasize that Tuscaloosa and the U. of Alabama was burned by the Yankees and Auburn probably welcomed them.

"March 26, 1881), a bald eagle, was the mascot of the 8th Wisconsin Volunteer Infantry Regiment in the American Civil War. Later, his image was adopted as the eagle appearing on a globe in Case Corporation's logo and as the screaming eagle on the insignia of the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division."
you believe this?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:13 pm to
He's a historian guys. He's got papers and shite.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:15 pm to
Our mascot is a tiger, but if you are looking hard enough...

As to the Eagle, "War Eagle" is Auburn's battle cry, not a mascot or nickname. The most popular story about the battle cry dates back to the first time Auburn met Georgia on the football field in 1892 and centers around a spectator who was a veteran of the Civil War. In the stands with him that day was an eagle the old soldier had found on a battlefield during the war. He had kept it as a pet for almost 30 years. According to witnesses, the eagle suddenly broke free and began majestically circling the playing field. As the eagle soared, Auburn began a steady march toward the Georgia end zone for a thrilling victory. Elated at their team's play and taking the bird's presence as an omen of success, Auburn students and fans began to yell "War Eagle" to spur on their team. At the game's end, the eagle took a sudden dive, crashed into the ground, and died. But the battle cry "War Eagle" lived on to become a symbol of the proud Auburn spirit.

Another version of the War Eagle story comes from Indian lore. Legend says "War Eagle" was the name given to the large golden eagle by the Plains Indians because the eagle furnished feathers for use in their war bonnets. The rarest version of the origin of the "War Eagle" cry grew from a 1913 pep rally at Langdon Hall where students had gathered the day before the Georgia football game. Cheerleader Gus Graydon told the crowd, "If we are going to win this game, we'll have to get out there and fight, because this means war." During the frenzy, another student, E. T. Enslen, dressed in his military uniform, noticed something had dropped from his hat. Bending down, he saw it was the metal emblem of an eagle that had been loosened while he cheered. Someone asked him what he had found, and Enslen loudly replied, "It's a War Eagle!" History was made as the new cry echoed throughout the stadium the next day as Auburn battled Georgia.
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